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**Rupp** · January 31, 2011, 10:04 PM

Steve,
When you start HomeSeer right click on the .exe and select Run as Administrator and this should take care of the popup. Were you logged in as an administrator when you installed HomeSeer?

**stevea** · January 31, 2011, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Rupp View Post

Steve,
When you start HomeSeer right click on the .exe and select Run as Administrator and this should take care of the popup. Were you logged in as an administrator when you installed HomeSeer?

I should have mentioned that: I did see the "Run as Administrator" and tried it. No diff. The homeseer account I set up on this machine (the only account, since it is intended to be a dedicated HS server) is set up as Administrator.

Any other ideas?

Steve

**Rupp** · January 31, 2011, 10:57 PM

Did you install it using the "Run as admin" option?

**stevea** · January 31, 2011, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Rupp View Post

Did you install it using the "Run as admin" option?

Rupp - That seems to have made some progress. I uninstalled and then reinstalled running the installer as administrator, and the hs compatibility error seems to have gone away, I think. The other problems remain. I can't start HS without the "do you want to allow" pop-up, and speaker app still throws the same error on VR.

Sigh... Programming seems so easy, building computers seems easy. Heck, world diplomacy seems easy. This stuff... this is hard.

**Pete** · February 1, 2011, 12:43 AM

Steve,

Have a quick read about disabling UAC in Windows 7.

**cjr18** · February 1, 2011, 02:29 AM

Try the following:

1. Start -> Run
2. Type secpol.msc and hit enter. Local Security Policy window appears.
3. on the left navigation panel, click on local policies -> Security Options.
4. On the right panel, scroll below until you see "User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt for administrators in admin approval mode".
5. Double click this option which opens a window. Navigate to Local security setting tab, select "Elevate Without prompting" from the drop down and apply the changes.
6. Restart

**stevea** · February 1, 2011, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Pete View Post

Steve,

Have a quick read about disabling UAC in Windows 7.

Pete,

You da man. I knew it would be something easly. I did find a way to create a new icon that was actually a shortcut for running a task I created in task scheduler, where the task was set to run with full administrator privs. It works, but it's pretty obtuse.

I also think I realized the VR error the speaker is having may be simply because I don't have mic plugged in yet.

My next problem: I have HS send out emails, and on XP I used Outlook Express, which is no more. I installed Windows Live Mail (much bigger), and I can tell it has MAPI because if I try and turn on mail in HS before I run Live Mail I get an error already. However, if I try and send something out from HS with Live Mail up I get tons of error messages in the HS log (about 10 per second) until I turn mail back off in HS. I know I can try again to master the magic of stunnel (tried once, but never got it to work with my hotmail) but... Does anyone know how to get HS sendemail to work with MAPI on Win7?

Steve

**stevea** · February 1, 2011, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by cjr18 View Post

Try the following:

1. Start -> Run
2. Type secpol.msc and hit enter. Local Security Policy window appears.
3. on the left navigation panel, click on local policies -> Security Options.
4. On the right panel, scroll below until you see "User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt for administrators in admin approval mode".
5. Double click this option which opens a window. Navigate to Local security setting tab, select "Elevate Without prompting" from the drop down and apply the changes.
6. Restart

Is that another way to disable the UAC? I'll take a look at it. Thanks!

Steve

**Pete** · February 1, 2011, 01:31 PM

Steve,
There are numerous ways documented on the Internet. I looked for one all solution and couldn't find anything but multiple step by step solutions. Here's another one:

For those of us that find ourselves disabling Vista UAC for the whole system (points finger at self), we now have the ability to disable UAC per application. Thanks to Microsoft KB946932, here’s the solution:

Using the tool and steps below, you may disable UAC prompt for the specific application. This does not disable the User Acount Control feature for the whole computer.

1. Download and install the Application Compatibility Toolkit from this link:Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit 5.0
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en)

2. In the Start menu, locate the new folder. Find the shortcut icon for Compatibility Administrator. Right click it and clik Run as administrator.

3. In the left hand pane, right-click on the database under Custom Databases and select Create New, and select Application Fix.

4. Enter the name and other details of the application you want to alter behavior on and then browse to it to select it. Click Next.

5. Click Next until you are in the Compatibility Fixes screen. 6. On the Compatibility Fixes screen, find the item RunAsInvoker, and check it.7. Click Next and then Finish.8. Select File and Save As. Save the file as a filename.SDB type file in a directory you will easily find it.9. Copy the <filename>.sdb file to the Vista computer you want to alter the elevation prompt behavior on.

10. Click Start>All Programs>Accessories. Right click Command Prompt and click Run as administrator.

Taken from this site:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com

**cjr18** · February 1, 2011, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by stevea View Post

Is that another way to disable the UAC? I'll take a look at it. Thanks!

Steve

As I understand it, it doesn't technically disable UAC, but rather automatically grants permission to any application that would otherwise prompt. I had a similar issue with my APC UPS software, and found the solution here: http://emea-en.apc.com/app/answers/d...ill-start-upon

Chris

**stevea** · February 2, 2011, 12:50 AM

I didn't see the posts here because I had my head in my equipment closet all day. With slick roads and temps never getting above zero, I decided to stay home and work on this. I've made lots of progress, and mostly have things working after the move to Win7/32. A few irritations:

After I discovered that my eight ATT CDs of voices won't install on Win7, I spent $100 on four Cepstral voices. I hope I don't offend anyone, but these voices are horrible! It's only a slight improvement over the Microsoft Mary that came with XP. I really hope someone can tell me how to get my ATT CDs onto Win7. I also have some Neo voices, but I can't find the CDs.
The ADIOcelot plug-in really needs to be upgraded. I'm pretty dependent on the Ocelot, but this poor plug-in barely managed to work under XP. I tried installing it, and it had all sorts of problems. Eventually I managed to simply copy the ADIOcelot section out of my old settings.ini file into the new one, and it seems to be working. I can't edit the config, because there is no config window. Anyone willng to take on a .NET translation?
My homeseer has its own dedicated hotmail account, and I'd like to be able to send (and maybe receive, but mostly send) messages. I had been using Outlook Express, which is long gone in Win7. Can someone who is running HSPro on Win7 and doing email give me some hints? I had tried stunnel at one time, but never got it to work with hotmail. It was probably just me...

If I can manage to get this system back somewhat close to what I used to have under XP, I'll be happy. It is a much faster machine, and Win7 is much nicer to work with (if I can get used to it).

Steve

**Rupp** · February 2, 2011, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by stevea View Post

I didn't see the posts here because I had my head in my equipment closet all day. With slick roads and temps never getting above zero, I decided to stay home and work on this. I've made lots of progress, and mostly have things working after the move to Win7/32. A few irritations:

After I discovered that my eight ATT CDs of voices won't install on Win7, I spent $100 on four Cepstral voices. I hope I don't offend anyone, but these voices are horrible! It's only a slight improvement over the Microsoft Mary that came with XP. I really hope someone can tell me how to get my ATT CDs onto Win7. I also have some Neo voices, but I can't find the CDs.
The ADIOcelot plug-in really needs to be upgraded. I'm pretty dependent on the Ocelot, but this poor plug-in barely managed to work under XP. I tried installing it, and it had all sorts of problems. Eventually I managed to simply copy the ADIOcelot section out of my old settings.ini file into the new one, and it seems to be working. I can't edit the config, because there is no config window. Anyone willng to take on a .NET translation?
My homeseer has its own dedicated hotmail account, and I'd like to be able to send (and maybe receive, but mostly send) messages. I had been using Outlook Express, which is long gone in Win7. Can someone who is running HSPro on Win7 and doing email give me some hints? I had tried stunnel at one time, but never got it to work with hotmail. It was probably just me...

If I can manage to get this system back somewhat close to what I used to have under XP, I'll be happy. It is a much faster machine, and Win7 is much nicer to work with (if I can get used to it).

Steve

Sounds like it would have been a WHOLE lot easier to simply load XP especially since this an automation server. I tried Win7 but as you I'm too reliant on old plugins that may never be updated. The fact that I'm never on the hardware makes the fact that it is "much nicer to work with" is a non issue for me.

**Pete** · February 2, 2011, 07:53 AM

Yeah I currently prefer my HS W2003 setup over my W7 test setup. I guess if I were to use W7 I would stick with using W7 Starter edition as you don't need much to run HS.

I don't really utilize the console in HS so don't really need fancy graphics or visual styles (Aero).

I currently mostly use W7 Ultimate on two computers - one mostly just for MCE.

Steve, I was able to get NeoSpeech to work fine in W7 (if you find your disks). My preferences are still with NeoSpeech versus the AT&T voices. The best voice but I could never find it for public consumption was the Acapela Heather. I did try it though and it is most impressive.

**mterry63** · February 2, 2011, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by stevea View Post

I didn't see the posts here because I had my head in my equipment closet all day. With slick roads and temps never getting above zero, I decided to stay home and work on this. I've made lots of progress, and mostly have things working after the move to Win7/32. A few irritations:

After I discovered that my eight ATT CDs of voices won't install on Win7, I spent $100 on four Cepstral voices. I hope I don't offend anyone, but these voices are horrible! It's only a slight improvement over the Microsoft Mary that came with XP. I really hope someone can tell me how to get my ATT CDs onto Win7. I also have some Neo voices, but I can't find the CDs.
The ADIOcelot plug-in really needs to be upgraded. I'm pretty dependent on the Ocelot, but this poor plug-in barely managed to work under XP. I tried installing it, and it had all sorts of problems. Eventually I managed to simply copy the ADIOcelot section out of my old settings.ini file into the new one, and it seems to be working. I can't edit the config, because there is no config window. Anyone willng to take on a .NET translation?
My homeseer has its own dedicated hotmail account, and I'd like to be able to send (and maybe receive, but mostly send) messages. I had been using Outlook Express, which is long gone in Win7. Can someone who is running HSPro on Win7 and doing email give me some hints? I had tried stunnel at one time, but never got it to work with hotmail. It was probably just me...

If I can manage to get this system back somewhat close to what I used to have under XP, I'll be happy. It is a much faster machine, and Win7 is much nicer to work with (if I can get used to it).

Steve

Steve,

AT&T voices have a check in the installer to verify OS versions and it doesn't recognize anything newer than XP. There are documented workarounds on the board that use the Microsoft utility ORCA to modify the installer. Try this thread: http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=111814

This should be made a knowledge base article by the Homeseer staff, it's amazing how many times people have to solve the same problem over and over.

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