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  • HS3 and BL Plugin upgrades

    There are a lot of changes in HS3 and will require a lot of changes from me. I am afraid the upgraded HS3 plugins will not be free as I need to get something for all the work I have ahead of me.

    I am looking for responses to the poll on how many plan to upgrade the plugins so I know if it will be worth it for me.
    55
    Yes
    85.45%
    47
    No
    7.27%
    4
    Are you kidding me. No way!!!
    7.27%
    4
    Cheers,
    Bob
    Web site | Help Desk | Feature Requests | Message Board

  • #2
    As BLplug-ins are prominent in my system I'll certainly upgrade. I'm the sure HS3 upgrade won't be free so why would Plug-in updates be. I expect software authors to make something from their work but please do take it easy on me, I use 28 plug-ins on my system, 16 of them are yours!
    Marty
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    XPpro SP3 /w HS Standard 2.5.0.80, HSTouch Server - 1.0.0.70, HSTouch Client 1.0.0.73 HSTouch Android - 1.0.0.2, HSTouch iPhone - 1.0.0.2
    Playing with HS3 a bit but it's just play at this point.

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    • #3
      Agreed - I dont mind paying an upgrade fee.

      Have you heard any recent news on the HS3 changes?
      HS3Pro Running on a Raspberry Pi3
      68 Z-Wave Nodes, 174 Events, 326 Devices
      UPB modules via OMNI plugin/panel
      Plugins: Z-Wave, OMNI, HSTouch, weatherXML, EasyTrigger
      HSTouch Clients: 3 Android, 1 Joggler

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      • #4
        There a lot of changes to the structure of a plugin so this is definitely not an easy task.
        BLRadar will be my first upgrade as I use this one the most.

        I am just waiting for a sample plugin from Rich and a beta of HS3.
        Cheers,
        Bob
        Web site | Help Desk | Feature Requests | Message Board

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        • #5
          Agreed, can't live without BLRadar!
          Bryan
          Software/Hardware: Win10 Pro, HS 3 Pro, HS Touch, Echo, Edgeport/4, Z-Net w/88 Devices, Insteon PLM w/19 Devices, Nest, GC-100-6, W800RF32A, WS-2080 Weather Station (KMADRACU10)
          Plug-in/Scripts: Alexa API, BLBackup, BLGData, BLLED, BLLock, BLRF, BLTVGuide, Blue Iris, BLUPS, Current Cost 3P, DirectTV, FitbitSeer, Insteon, Nest, Pushover 3P, Random, Restart, Tasker, UltraGCIR3, UltraWeatherWU, Z-Wave

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          • #6
            Now that HS3 is here and a lot of my plugins have been released for testing I am sure people are wondering if there will be an upgrade fee for plugins.

            The answer is Yes

            I have spent a lot of time converting the plugins so far and I know the feature requests are starting to come as well.

            I will be charging approx $20 for plugin upgrades. The number is not final yet. I am waiting to hear back from HST on how they plan to take commission from plugin upgrades. This will determine my final price.

            Stay tuned for more info.
            Cheers,
            Bob
            Web site | Help Desk | Feature Requests | Message Board

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Blade View Post
              Now that HS3 is here and a lot of my plugins have been released for testing I am sure people are wondering if there will be an upgrade fee for plugins.

              The answer is Yes

              I have spent a lot of time converting the plugins so far and I know the feature requests are starting to come as well.

              I will be charging approx $20 for plugin upgrades. The number is not final yet. I am waiting to hear back from HST on how they plan to take commission from plugin upgrades. This will determine my final price.

              Stay tuned for more info.

              I have a few questions..
              1. are the free ones going to stay free?
              2. BLFloorPlan - doesnt seem that it exists anymore as I remember seeing in the HS3 preview that they built something like that into HS3.... plans on making it better than the default or is it going?

              of course I dont mind paying upgrade prices for plugins.. as im expecting I will be doing this for AC-RF3 / RFXCOM too....

              but to drop $30 (if that is new price) for say 10 plugins.. that is just too steep for me.. so I will be limiting what I choose to go with for plugins...


              p.s. for your poll.. you didnt have... for some.. not all... [:-P>
              HW - i5 4570T @2.9ghz runs @11w | 8gb ram | 128gb ssd OS - Win10 x64

              HS - HS3 Pro Edition 3.0.0.435

              Plugins - BLRF 2.0.94.0 | Concord 4 3.1.13.10 | HSBuddy 3.9.605.5 | HSTouch Server 3.0.0.68 | RFXCOM 30.0.0.36 | X10 3.0.0.36 | Z-Wave 3.0.1.190

              Hardware - EdgePort/4 DB9 Serial | RFXCOM 433MHz USB Transceiver | Superbus 2000 for Concord 4 | TI103 X-10 Interface | WGL Designs W800 RF | Z-Net Z-Wave Interface

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              • #8
                Totally understand.

                The free ones will stay free except for BLAB8SS and BLRandom. Those will be paid plugins in HS3.

                I did see that they have something very similar to BLFloorplan in HS3. I guess it is up to the users whether I convert it or not. I have started it but have a few more things to work out for BLFloorplan. Do you guys want it available in HS3? I will post a poll for this.

                The price per upgrade will be approx $20 (not final yet). If you are a new user of the plugin the price is $29.99 for all HS3 paid plugins just like in HS2.

                If I am going to offer any package deals (5 plugin upgrades for $85 or something like that) I will have to figure it out. HST is going to take 30% of whatever I offer so I have to see if it is worth it for me and my time that I have spent and will be spending going forward.

                I will let you everyone know what happens
                Cheers,
                Bob
                Web site | Help Desk | Feature Requests | Message Board

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blade View Post
                  If I am going to offer any package deals (5 plugin upgrades for $85 or something like that) I will have to figure it out. HST is going to take 30% of whatever I offer so I have to see if it is worth it for me and my time that I have spent and will be spending going forward.

                  I will let you everyone know what happens
                  Oh please on the package deal, I'm running 16 of your plug-ins!
                  Marty
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                  XPpro SP3 /w HS Standard 2.5.0.80, HSTouch Server - 1.0.0.70, HSTouch Client 1.0.0.73 HSTouch Android - 1.0.0.2, HSTouch iPhone - 1.0.0.2
                  Playing with HS3 a bit but it's just play at this point.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by nightwalker View Post
                    Oh please on the package deal, I'm running 16 of your plug-ins!
                    Ditto... that and a few others plus the upgrade to hs3 is pushing this too far away :/ now hs2 has just started to work right not sure I can start another 4 years waiting for hs3 to be stable!

                    TrOjAn

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                    • #11
                      I am thinking 2 packages

                      - 5 plugin upgrade package
                      - 10 plugin upgrade package
                      Cheers,
                      Bob
                      Web site | Help Desk | Feature Requests | Message Board

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                      • #12
                        I'll need one of each of those plus a single.
                        Marty
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                        XPpro SP3 /w HS Standard 2.5.0.80, HSTouch Server - 1.0.0.70, HSTouch Client 1.0.0.73 HSTouch Android - 1.0.0.2, HSTouch iPhone - 1.0.0.2
                        Playing with HS3 a bit but it's just play at this point.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blade View Post
                          I am thinking 2 packages

                          - 5 plugin upgrade package
                          - 10 plugin upgrade package
                          Any word on negotiations with HS about doing a package deal(s). I can't yet run HS3 but I have bought the upgrade in anticipation and I'd like to do the same for your plug-ins so when they get that only on "C" drive thing fixed I'll be ready to start making the switch.
                          Marty
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                          XPpro SP3 /w HS Standard 2.5.0.80, HSTouch Server - 1.0.0.70, HSTouch Client 1.0.0.73 HSTouch Android - 1.0.0.2, HSTouch iPhone - 1.0.0.2
                          Playing with HS3 a bit but it's just play at this point.

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                          • #14
                            There said they are not sure that can setup. I think Mark is still looking into it
                            Cheers,
                            Bob
                            Web site | Help Desk | Feature Requests | Message Board

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blade View Post
                              There said they are not sure that can setup. I think Mark is still looking into it
                              Oh my, I hope he can figure out something to make it happen or I'll be regretting my vote to put your plug-ins in the HS updater.
                              Marty
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                              XPpro SP3 /w HS Standard 2.5.0.80, HSTouch Server - 1.0.0.70, HSTouch Client 1.0.0.73 HSTouch Android - 1.0.0.2, HSTouch iPhone - 1.0.0.2
                              Playing with HS3 a bit but it's just play at this point.

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