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    I’ve been using Jon’s utility without problem. Like Steve, I’m creating the devices with the legacy device management page, then grouping them with Jon’s utility. I found the same problem trying to build a multi-feature device with the HS4 device management page.
    HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.0 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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      Originally posted by randy View Post
      I’ve been using Jon’s utility without problem. Like Steve, I’m creating the devices with the legacy device management page, then grouping them with Jon’s utility. I found the same problem trying to build a multi-feature device with the HS4 device management page.
      My current test is using a V3.2 device as root. I am running the latest HS4 (4.1.17.0) version. What versions are you running? Maybe something changed recently?
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        Originally posted by jhopple View Post

        My current test is using a V3.2 device as root. I am running the latest HS4 (4.1.17.0) version. What versions are you running? Maybe something changed recently?
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        I’m on 4.1.17 as well. I built and grouped a compound device over last weekend.

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        HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.0 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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          This is really strange!

          The fix relationships option fixes this as long as I have the event engine disabled but as soon as I re-enable the event engine the children devices relationship field is set to Not_Set within 10 seconds.

          After event engine disabled and fix relationships invoked:

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          This is what happens when I use the grouping utility - the relationships are set then almost immediately reset.

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            I found it. It was happening when 1 particular script was running and that script is updating only the devices that I am using as children!!
            I run the script every minute so it was always running almost immediately when I enable the event engine.

            I apologize for jumping to conclusions -- just was really frustrating.

            jon00
            The Jon00RCCNMHS3_A.vben script is somehow updating the relationship status for pinged devices.

            Any ideas?

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              Originally posted by jhopple View Post
              I found it. It was happening when 1 particular script was running and that script is updating only the devices that I am using as children!!
              I run the script every minute so it was always running almost immediately when I enable the event engine.

              I apologize for jumping to conclusions -- just was really frustrating.

              jon00
              The Jon00RCCNMHS3_A.vben script is somehow updating the relationship status for pinged devices.

              Any ideas?
              Yes, it groups its own devices. I wrote this many years ago so had forgotten what I had done. That's why there is a big warning in the docs about only grouping your own devices as most plugins will want to control their own.
              Jon

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                Thanks Jon for another very useful plugin;
                Been using it for a while and will probably need it even more as I'll shortly migrate a large number of "orphan" HS3 devices to HS4.
                Not sure how this will behave, fingers crossed.

                Just wanted to suggest a small improvment : I have quite an extensive list of devices and the plugin doesn't seem to have a working scrollbar when selecting devices.
                Not a very big deal but this would save a lot of wear on my mouse wheel 😀.
                Thanks for considering it in a next release.

                Cheers,

                Yann

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                  Originally posted by 123qweasd View Post
                  Thanks Jon for another very useful plugin;
                  Been using it for a while and will probably need it even more as I'll shortly migrate a large number of "orphan" HS3 devices to HS4.
                  Not sure how this will behave, fingers crossed.

                  Just wanted to suggest a small improvment : I have quite an extensive list of devices and the plugin doesn't seem to have a working scrollbar when selecting devices.
                  Not a very big deal but this would save a lot of wear on my mouse wheel 😀.
                  Thanks for considering it in a next release.

                  Cheers,

                  Yann
                  Actually it's been on the cards for some time but you know how it is!

                  Please try V1.0.5 on my site.
                  Jon

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                    V1.0.5 tested/working.
                    Thank you Jon 😀

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                      Back when I was setting up some groups with this plug-in, I must have messed something up because I'm seeing an error in my log every time HS boots about a missing associated device. Is there a way I can clean this up? I tried the "Fix Device/Feature Relationships" button under Setup > Labs, but that didn't clear it out.

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                        Yes, first delete the parent association for ref 193. This will clear out all the child associations.

                        Next, select it again as the parent device and select devices 194, 281, 363 & 279 as the children.
                        Jon

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                          Originally posted by jon00 View Post
                          Yes, first delete the parent association for ref 193. This will clear out all the child associations. Next, select it again as the parent device and select devices 194, 281, 363 & 279 as the children.
                          Thanks, that worked.

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                            Jon,

                            I just tried this utility for the first time and am seeing unexpected behavior in that devices are shown twice in the device manager after grouping--in the group and separately. See below. On reading (some of) this thread, I see it may not be suitable for devices created by plugins (in this case your Jon00RCCNM). Is that the likely issue here, and should I not attempt to use it for these devices?

                            Thank you.

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                            -Wade

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                              Originally posted by Wade View Post
                              Jon,

                              I just tried this utility for the first time and am seeing unexpected behavior in that devices are shown twice in the device manager after grouping--in the group and separately. See below. On reading (some of) this thread, I see it may not be suitable for devices created by plugins (in this case your Jon00RCCNM). Is that the likely issue here, and should I not attempt to use it for these devices?

                              Thank you.

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                              It will not work well on devices owned by a plug-in as the plug-in takes care of grouping and will likely overwrite whatever you set.

                              HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.0 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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                                Ok thanks Randy. The result is interesting though. The duplicate devices are separate from representations of the same device. I.e., if I modify any settings on either, the changes are reflected on the other as well. I'm sure the explanation is simple, but to me it's a bit of spooky interaction at a distance.
                                -Wade

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