Jon00 Device Grouping Utility (web page) for Homeseer 3 & Homeseer 4

[randy]

I’ve been using Jon’s utility without problem. Like Steve, I’m creating the devices with the legacy device management page, then grouping them with Jon’s utility. I found the same problem trying to build a multi-feature device with the HS4 device management page.

[jhopple]

I’ve been using Jon’s utility without problem. Like Steve, I’m creating the devices with the legacy device management page, then grouping them with Jon’s utility. I found the same problem trying to build a multi-feature device with the HS4 device management page.

My current test is using a V3.2 device as root. I am running the latest HS4 (4.1.17.0) version. What versions are you running? Maybe something changed recently?

Node 1532 Status changed after enabling the event engine.

[randy]

My current test is using a V3.2 device as root. I am running the latest HS4 (4.1.17.0) version. What versions are you running? Maybe something changed recently?

Node 1532 Status changed after enabling the event engine.

I’m on 4.1.17 as well. I built and grouped a compound device over last weekend.

[jhopple]

This is really strange!

The fix relationships option fixes this as long as I have the event engine disabled but as soon as I re-enable the event engine the children devices relationship field is set to Not_Set within 10 seconds.

After event engine disabled and fix relationships invoked:



After the event engine is re-enabled:


This is what happens when I use the grouping utility - the relationships are set then almost immediately reset.

[jhopple]

I found it. It was happening when 1 particular script was running and that script is updating only the devices that I am using as children!!
I run the script every minute so it was always running almost immediately when I enable the event engine.

I apologize for jumping to conclusions -- just was really frustrating.

jon00
The Jon00RCCNMHS3_A.vben script is somehow updating the relationship status for pinged devices.

Any ideas?

[jon00]

I found it. It was happening when 1 particular script was running and that script is updating only the devices that I am using as children!!
I run the script every minute so it was always running almost immediately when I enable the event engine.

I apologize for jumping to conclusions -- just was really frustrating.

jon00
The Jon00RCCNMHS3_A.vben script is somehow updating the relationship status for pinged devices.

Any ideas?

Yes, it groups its own devices. I wrote this many years ago so had forgotten what I had done. That's why there is a big warning in the docs about only grouping your own devices as most plugins will want to control their own.

[Guest]

Thanks Jon for another very useful plugin;
Been using it for a while and will probably need it even more as I'll shortly migrate a large number of "orphan" HS3 devices to HS4.
Not sure how this will behave, fingers crossed.

Just wanted to suggest a small improvment : I have quite an extensive list of devices and the plugin doesn't seem to have a working scrollbar when selecting devices.
Not a very big deal but this would save a lot of wear on my mouse wheel 😀.
Thanks for considering it in a next release.

Cheers,

Yann

[jon00]

Thanks Jon for another very useful plugin;
Been using it for a while and will probably need it even more as I'll shortly migrate a large number of "orphan" HS3 devices to HS4.
Not sure how this will behave, fingers crossed.

Just wanted to suggest a small improvment : I have quite an extensive list of devices and the plugin doesn't seem to have a working scrollbar when selecting devices.
Not a very big deal but this would save a lot of wear on my mouse wheel 😀.
Thanks for considering it in a next release.

Cheers,

Yann

Actually it's been on the cards for some time but you know how it is!

Please try V1.0.5 on my site.

[Guest]

V1.0.5 tested/working.
Thank you Jon 😀

[windracer]

Back when I was setting up some groups with this plug-in, I must have messed something up because I'm seeing an error in my log every time HS boots about a missing associated device. Is there a way I can clean this up? I tried the "Fix Device/Feature Relationships" button under Setup > Labs, but that didn't clear it out.

[jon00]

Yes, first delete the parent association for ref 193. This will clear out all the child associations.

Next, select it again as the parent device and select devices 194, 281, 363 & 279 as the children.

[windracer]

Yes, first delete the parent association for ref 193. This will clear out all the child associations. Next, select it again as the parent device and select devices 194, 281, 363 & 279 as the children.

Thanks, that worked.

[Wade]

Jon,

I just tried this utility for the first time and am seeing unexpected behavior in that devices are shown twice in the device manager after grouping--in the group and separately. See below. On reading (some of) this thread, I see it may not be suitable for devices created by plugins (in this case your Jon00RCCNM). Is that the likely issue here, and should I not attempt to use it for these devices?

Thank you.

[randy]

Jon,

I just tried this utility for the first time and am seeing unexpected behavior in that devices are shown twice in the device manager after grouping--in the group and separately. See below. On reading (some of) this thread, I see it may not be suitable for devices created by plugins (in this case your Jon00RCCNM). Is that the likely issue here, and should I not attempt to use it for these devices?

Thank you.

It will not work well on devices owned by a plug-in as the plug-in takes care of grouping and will likely overwrite whatever you set.

[Wade]

Ok thanks Randy. The result is interesting though. The duplicate devices are separate from representations of the same device. I.e., if I modify any settings on either, the changes are reflected on the other as well. I'm sure the explanation is simple, but to me it's a bit of spooky interaction at a distance.