Just got an email that they are having one of the periodic 50% off the software sales. Purchase includes a free upgrade to HS4. Reading through posts, it looks like that will be coming out soon (not sure if that means Beta or official version). Some solid updates, a better looking GUI, and it includes more plugins for free. Also notable is that they hired on of the better plug-in devs as a full time employee to develop and maintain the HS branded plug-ins. Pricing the same as before. Looks like moves to keep them competitive w/Hubitat, etc.https://discord.software/ fetlife vshare
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350% off sale on now, with free upgrade to HS4 (which means its on its way)
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350% off sale on now, with free upgrade to HS4 (which means its on its way)
Just got an email that they are having one of the periodic 50% off the software sales. Purchase includes a free upgrade to HS4. Reading through posts, it looks like that will be coming out soon (not sure if that means Beta or official version). Some solid updates, a better looking GUI, and it includes more plugins for free. Also notable is that they hired on of the better plug-in devs as a full time employee to develop and maintain the HS branded plug-ins. Pricing the same as before. Looks like moves to keep them competitive w/Hubitat, etc.https://discord.software/ fetlife vshareTags: None
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I think the title of your post is a little aggressive. 350% is a huge discount.
I can't see how a sale is any direct indication as the the readiness of HS4 for release. The open beta is scheduled to drop Feb. 4th, but it is still just a beta. I would not read too much into a software discount sale. A sale is just a sale.
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When HS2 introduced to capture the browser-based market it was a step down for customers who used the desktop environment as form update on the desktop were immediate. HS3 came along to get back some of what was lost in HS1->HS2 with use of jQuery. Now we are going to to HS4 and again the baseline user is compromised because the new target market is mobile. Everything now needs to be mobile-compatible so everything expands to multiple clicks to get what you want, but the clicks can be done with a finger rather than a mouse.
For new users and increasing the appeal of HS in the mobile market HS4 is good. For existing user base that does not live on their cell phone HS4r is for the most part a compromise or a downgrade. Over the years there will be some convergence just like there was with prior HS versions. Some of it it will be with changes to HS. Some will be with changes to the user base who forgot where they came from.
From a business perspective this is a good move as it brings in more users and existing users will just bite the bullet.
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Originally posted by MattL0 View PostLol. Btw i am 31. I am supposed to be the in the young people group that will just use the phone???
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Originally posted by MattL0 View PostYeah i don like the fact you have to click 2000 time to get what you want.
the mobile thing is so useless to me . If i modify some logic that need node red , ssh, ...or event just multiple browser tabs.. I won’t use a phone .
I have the feeling we 'crippled' the desktop experience so users can create/modify events from their phone. I really wonder how often ppl will do that. For mobile displaying purposes, we have HSMobile, which is lacking in many fronts. Or HSTouch, which is even getting less love nowadays.
Making the analogy with Home Assistant: they do not have an (easy) way to change the config via a mobile device, end yet the userbase is growing every day. What they do have, is a very powerful (and customizable !!) UI experience that targets mobile and desktop users. We still don't have that :-/
Originally posted by simplextech View PostNah... you have a PC with a browser and lots of tools... except you're forced to use a PHONE UI on a full PC browser... have fun..... I'm enjoying the show from the outside.
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Originally posted by simplextech View Post
Nah... you have a PC with a browser and lots of tools... except you're forced to use a PHONE UI on a full PC browser... have fun..... I'm enjoying the show from the outside.
Responsive design takes extra time and additional thought. In the end, however, it means a better overall experience across multiple devices, not a design that is only for a small screen size.
Karl S
HS4Pro on Windows 10
242 Devices
56 Z-Wave Nodes
37 Events
HSTouch Clients: 3 Android, 1 iOS
Google Home: 3 Mini units 1 display
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