Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

PoE Camera H264/ONVIF

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Pete
    replied
    Yes I noticed Chinese remnants on my HD IP cameras using the OnVif software. i was able to edit much of them out.

    Here I started tinkering a few years back purchasing bare bones IP HD camera boards.

    Initially it was a 3-stack IP HD board.

    They did all have RTC/battery and some play space.

    Difficult to play with them cuz everything was small.

    I then did implement a few 2-stack IP HD camera board in IP 67 dome housings which I use today. (all are using the Grandstream OS with built in SIP).

    The company I purchased the boards from showed me how to modify the GUI which I did a bit.

    Next playing with single board IP HD cameras and will attempt to update my older Optex combination cameras (they are stealthy looking). I doubt very much that the old design will be implemented again as i is a bit too stealthy. (very functional though). The single board IP HD camera boards will have no issues fitting in the Optex housing as it is a very modular design.

    Leave a comment:


  • mikaluch
    replied
    After a little more work it is still hard to decide. I have installed four different cameras from three different manufacturers in both ZoneMinder and iSpy. I will say that iSpy gets a leg up for configuration. They have a massive maintained camera database that mostly determines what URLs you will need. I cheated and used the info for ZoneMinder also. The snapshot URLs for HomeSeer are a little more difficult to find. I don't know why they just don't state them plainly in the docs. At least the poor use of English in all these Chinese docs won't confuse a URL.

    It looks like the winner will be determined by plugin applicability and ease of use. The promise of facial recognition helps keep up the WAF.

    The power of the cameras available for very little these days is astonishing. I just installed a wireless outdoor 1080P with dual streaming that I paid less than $70 for. Beefy aluminum body construction (probably because they are cast but good enough for this application). Works well now. We'll see how it stands up over time.

    Leave a comment:


  • Pete
    replied
    I removed the above cuz it really is just a splat and I haven't done much with it lately.

    Baby steps mikaluch. Home automation here is more hobby than anything lately.

    It is whatever you feel most comfortable using.

    Here I am not really good at using HSTouch and still learning. Here is snapshot of one weather screen. I am really bad at this.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Pete; May 13, 2016, 01:11 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • mikaluch
    replied
    That is a very nicely laid out page. I'm not completely sold on Zoneminder yet. I also tried iSpy yesterday. Quite a bit easier than Zoneminder. I think I will need one Windows machine running to make some things (Speaker, Touch) easier. iSpy could reside there.

    So far the one common thread I see across the camera/network DVR stuff I have played with is a lot of admin level passwords being transmitted over the network without encryption. I'm going to have to correct that before I'll be comfortable letting any of this stuff run unsupervised.

    Leave a comment:


  • Pete
    replied
    Good news Mikaluch. Here I can honestly write that I have used Zoneminder now for over 10 years. Way back it was using an 8 chip video captures card.

    Here my outdoor cams are all 2.8 / 3.6mm lens. You can now purchase fish eye lens.

    Check out zmNija. It is the best remote that I have seen for Zoneminder in a long time.

    You can edit the perl scripts in Zoneminder for hardwired or soft triggers if you want.

    For a while here was using X10 for soft event triggers.

    Here is my weathercam / front camera view. Picture is between sunset and darkness.
    Last edited by Pete; May 13, 2016, 01:10 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • mikaluch
    replied
    I finally got around to installing ZoneMinder. Very easy step by step from Pete's link. The good news is the Microseven camera linked to ZM easily. Time to order a few more. I think I will check out one of the Uokoo outdoor bullet cams also. Configuration similar to the Microseven, same price, but 1080P instead of 960P. Those should settle me for outside. I'm going to need a couple indoor cameras with a very wide field of view. (small house - small rooms).

    Leave a comment:


  • Pete
    replied
    Very nice!

    Here just pulled in a camera to my 2nd weather page. Note I am not very good at this stuff. Mostly interested here in water temperature.

    My whole thing here was security first (with cameras) and NVR third.

    I didn't purchase the cameras for Homeseer but rather just made Homeseer work with the cameras.

    Next was configuring this stuff with my Leviton HAI OmniPro touchscreens and Homeseer HSTouchscreens.

    It has evolved much since the late 1990's and using legacy SD analog CCTV cameras.

    As stated earlier the ONVIF standards are not soup yet and Homeseer 3 / Homeseer touch is NOT a CCTV system nor is it an NVR controller. (unless you utilize the Blue Iris CCTV software 3rd party plugin or utilize Zoneminder).
    Last edited by Pete; May 11, 2016, 09:40 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • DSteiNeuro
    replied
    Originally posted by Pete View Post
    What version of ONVIF are your Hikvision cameras showing?
    The Hikvisions and Digital Watchdog are all showing ONVIF 2.4

    Leave a comment:


  • Pete
    replied
    Yeah I am impressed with the ONVIF device manager.

    It is like a MIB walker for security cameras AND you can change stuff in it.

    My Grandstream HDIP cameras here are all only at 1.X version ONVIF. (old?)

    My time is correct as I sync the RTC to my NTP server. When I tried to adjust the ONVIF time settings and I did get an ONVIF device manager error.

    What version of ONVIF are your Hikvision cameras showing?

    Leave a comment:


  • DSteiNeuro
    replied
    Originally posted by Pete View Post
    Download a program called ONVIF device manager here==> ONVIF device manager


    ONVIF Specifications
    Nice tool for ONVIF, thanks!

    I have been really happy with the Hikvision Cameras. I bought a Digital Watchdog PTZ, because it is very popular with the professional security custom installers. It has been a pain and I can't figure out the Blue Iris PTZ config. The Blue Iris developer is going to take a look for me and hopefully add it to the BI camera list.

    Leave a comment:


  • Pete
    replied
    Download a program called ONVIF device manager here==> ONVIF device manager

    Check out your ONVIF compliant cameras. The program will tell you want version of ONVIF you are running and ONVIF profile data stuff.

    Vendors are still catching up so the standards compliance of ONVIF has a long way to go still today.

    ONVIF Specifications

    I looked at my cameras here and they are all ONVIF compliant but versions way back and I was able to edit some stuff and not other stuff (firmware has a long way to go).

    Leave a comment:


  • marco500
    replied
    Originally posted by thetaz01 View Post
    Let me Elaborate... a little..
    So I really don't want any kind of actions done via homeseer...
    it would be nice.. BUT primarily, I just want the ability to create a HSTOUCH screen with a live stream from one of my cameras...
    I don't want it to record, it, act on it, nothing...
    again perhaps a wish for later on, to be able to act on an event, when motion is detected would be awesome.. BUT ill take on a little wish of Just being able to create a window in a HSTOUCH design, and stream LIVE video from a camera...

    Thanks
    Fred
    Fred,

    I started this thread with the hopes that the HS team would consider something more mainstream than Foscam. ONVIF would be the best, and I'm sure there are plenty of ONVIF libraries available for Android and other OS's for them to integrate the protocol. An alternative would be RPT stream as well. That being said, I'm not holding my breath since I don't see a lot of energy being focused towards improving the HSTouch platform--and hope to be wrong.

    My somewhat OK solution has been to use the snapshot URL from my security DVR as a video URL stream within HSTouch. It works, not as smoothly as true ONVIF or RPT, but it works. My only drawback is that is near real-time. It skips a few frames and it's not as high in resolution as the actual stream (limitation on my DVR's snapshot feature), but that's something I have to live with and I've come to terms.

    Hope that helps.
    Marco

    Leave a comment:


  • thetaz01
    replied
    Originally posted by Steve Q View Post
    Integration of security cameras into HS3 is challenging! It is not so difficult to get camera images displayed in HSTouch, but things like motion detection and video recording is better done by dedicated security software. I use HS3 to send me emails when my outdoor motion sensors are tripped. Then I look at my Video surveillance software to check motion videos etc. Also, I have my cameras/software on a different computer than HS3. IP cameras can lockup and stop working; HS3 can not always handle this. You should experiment with one or 2 cameras with HS3.

    Pete is the camera expert. He has tons of experience.

    Steve Q


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

    Let me Elaborate... a little..
    So I really don't want any kind of actions done via homeseer...
    it would be nice.. BUT primarily, I just want the ability to create a HSTOUCH screen with a live stream from one of my cameras...
    I don't want it to record, it, act on it, nothing...
    again perhaps a wish for later on, to be able to act on an event, when motion is detected would be awesome.. BUT ill take on a little wish of Just being able to create a window in a HSTOUCH design, and stream LIVE video from a camera...

    Thanks
    Fred

    Leave a comment:


  • Pete
    replied
    Here running HS Touch Designer on a VM. That said I utilize my Ubuntu stuff to do designs these days. Running HSTouch / Speaker on embedded XP. For the HSPro box running on Ubuntu run a Wintel VM for just speaker / SAPI stuff.

    I followed the following for 2nd Zoneminder box. First one was just upgraded.

    Ubuntu Server 14.04 64-bit with Zoneminder 1.29.0 the easy way

    I have not had issues with installing zmNinja. Really it is just the IP and directory configuration for the API / CGI stuff.

    Linux zmNinja is a build from scratch, then running it in Apache. All of the other OS's is just running it.

    Leave a comment:


  • mikaluch
    replied
    Your timing is impeccable. I was right in the middle of cursing out Windoze. The half off sale inspired me to get a Touch Designer license so I set up a nice clean Windows 7 installation right from the gold holographic disks, updated it, and then loaded Touch Designer, Touch for Windows, and Speaker Client for Windows. All three start, then lock up and just sit there tying everything up. I tried Zoneminder yesterday and wasn't able to get a good installation on Ubuntu Trusty. I'm on a roll. (Which reminds me, do you know what Ubuntu is? It's an ancient African word that means "can't load Debian".)

    But I see that zmninja runs on every platform. I've heard Zoneminder is tricky to configure. I've never used it before. I will check them out.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X