Can we keep updating HS3 plugins

[kriz83]

Due the small userbase, I will not convert my plugin (Surveillance station) to HS4, because the HS3 plugin works just fine.
Can i keep updating the plugin in the foreseeable future, or will updates of existing plugins be blocked sometime ?

[alexbk66]

Due the small userbase, I will not convert my plugin (Surveillance station) to HS4, because the HS3 plugin works just fine.
Can i keep updating the plugin in the foreseeable future, or will updates of existing plugins be blocked sometime ?

I hope not, this will be death sentence for HS and HST.

Unless "sometime" is a year time.

[kriz83]

I will not update it, not even after a year. Not worth my time for some pennies :-)

I hope not, this will be death sentence for HS and HST..

Why do you think so? Other devs could decide to not add new functionality to the HS3 version (which will push ppl to the HS4 version).

[Eman]

kriz83 ,
Why don't you just develop a completely new plugin for HS4? The better the functionality, will push people to it. Given the new devices (cameras and NVRs) with AI there is a lot left to be desired. When you look at HS camera integration, it's quite ..................need we say more?
Not everyone likes or wants to use node-red but one could only be left to wonder that what if they could just add OnVif protocol, the cameras just integrate easily in their product.

But who am I to argue about that? Am not software designer but a wishful thinker


For amazing triggers, check out this node-red plugin : node-red-contrib-onvif-nodes for ideas





Eman.

[alexbk66]

kriz83 ,
Why don't you just develop a completely new plugin for HS4?

Because it takes time (a lot of time) - for no obvious benefit?

[Eman]

Because it takes time (a lot of time) - for no obvious benefit?

I get you man, I have seen the posts lately! It's like being in love with someone whose mind is elsewhere Can you relate to that or mirror that? I think am being too hash there!


Eman.

[kriz83]

Why don't you just develop a completely new plugin for HS4?

It crossed my mind. I made some money with the plugin over time (i keep on supporting it !), but creating a new plugin is a lot of effort. HS takes a 30% cut, on a plugin that has a limited userbase. If you count the money vs effort ratio, it's really not worth the time.

Adding features to the existing plugin is quite easy, given the architecture i've put in place. Porting that to HS4 (a platform that I'm not using myself), is just too much :-)

[Rupp]

Just as has happened with HS2 the same will happen to HS4. It will be a few years but eventually HS will stop supporting HS3 in the future and you'll want to move to HS5/6/7 due to new functionality. This is simply the nature of software progression.

[Eman]

It crossed my mind. I made some money with the plugin over time (i keep on supporting it !), but creating a new plugin is a lot of effort. HS takes a 30% cut, on a plugin that has a limited userbase. If you count the money vs effort ratio, it's really not worth the time.

Adding features to the existing plugin is quite easy, given the architecture i've put in place. Porting that to HS4 (a platform that I'm not using myself), is just too much :-)

Please?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Am watching the space


Eman.

[kriz83]

We'll see. Maybe later on, currently too busy with doing custom integrations around the globe (Belgium, US, Norway, Netherlands, ...).

All from the comfort of my desk :-P

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[kriz83]

Just as has happened with HS2 the same will happen to HS4. It will be a few years but eventually HS will stop supporting HS3 in the future and you'll want to move to HS5/6/7 due to new functionality. This is simply the nature of software progression.

A couple of years is fine. Maybe I've switched back then, who knows

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[jon00]

If a HS3 plugin works fine in HS4, I can't see HST suddenly stopping HS3 functionality in HS4 over time. There would be an outcry! Whilst HS3 will fade away, stopping working HS3 plugins in the HS4 store would be a loss of revenue... something they need to keep afloat.

[kriz83]

What I meant was: will they refuse to approve updates within this and say 2 years.

If HS4 seems like a success and a lot of new users are attracted, i might revise my decision. But TBH i don't see that happen in the next 16 months

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[Eman]

If a HS3 plugin works fine in HS4, I can't see HST suddenly stopping HS3 functionality in HS4 over time. There would be an outcry! Whilst HS3 will fade away, stopping working HS3 plugins in the HS4 store would be a loss of revenue... something they need to keep afloat.

What about the loss of how much I put in only for the plugins? I have at most 20 paid for plugins!

What is the law about lost investment? I mean I will be at a loss as well! Please don't even mention it


Eman.

[mrhappy]

If a HS3 plugin works fine in HS4, I can't see HST suddenly stopping HS3 functionality in HS4 over time. There would be an outcry! Whilst HS3 will fade away, stopping working HS3 plugins in the HS4 store would be a loss of revenue... something they need to keep afloat.

I think my concern would be around the functionality that exists in HS3 that is not in the new HS4 API (I'm thinking multi instance for example) and when that old HS3 functionality gets removed from HS4? If the intent was to keep supporting those features in those plugins why not just put them in the HS4?