Daily Reminders

[Wadenut]

Greg, I'm one of the holdouts who has bought HS3 but still running HS2 because not everything I use has been ported over yet -- including your handy reminders script. So I would like to see it ported to HS3, but I'm not in any hurry as I won't use it right away.

Thanks for all your relentless hard work!

FWIW

Thanks for the word of support. HS3 has, in my opinion, a lot of deficiencies.
I have the script running and can use the old ASP page with it.
- The page header is giving me problems, but I do have a work around built in.
- I'd like to provide a link on the HS menu to the page so we don't have to type in the link each time, but this too is being difficult. HS3 documentation indicates it should work but, as is the case with many things, doesn't. I'm hesitant to add a bug to Bugzilla until I know whether or not anyone else has run into this problem.
When I do register the link, the page becomes impossible to access at all.

[spknapp]

... Does anyone still want this?

Greg, I'm one of the holdouts who has bought HS3 but still running HS2 because not everything I use has been ported over yet -- including your handy reminders script. So I would like to see it ported to HS3, but I'm not in any hurry as I won't use it right away.

Thanks for all your relentless hard work!

FWIW

[Wadenut]

I've managed to get around the event issue and the script does run in HS3.

The only thing at this point preventing me posting an HS3 version is creating an ASP.net page to go with it. The old ASP page does work (sorta) with HS3 but I'm having trouble with hs.GetPageHeader. It doesn't seem to display properly.
Two routes to try: 1. Get the old ASP working, or 2. Learn ASP.NET and write a new page. #1 would certainly be easier on my head.

Now, the question becomes "Is there any point?" ie: Does anyone still want this?

[Wadenut]

Before anyone asks; due to the fact that many of the methods used by the DailyReminders script are not available for use in HS3, namely those related to creating and modifying event schedules, this package will not be updated for HS3.
If the situation changes in the future I'll reassess this decision. It's unfortunate that the developers chose to limit functionality by choosing this route.

[stevea]

Steve,
Very little has changed in the scripting arena. So far all commands that I have tested are identical. The only issue I have is many of the commands haven't been converted yet.

Rupp,

I've been exchanging info with some others here via email, and it appears there are many (59 by last count) methods that are either gone completely (the majority of the 59) or changed significantly. What I was hoping for (and so was pretty disappointed that all you pointed to was the partially updated script help file) was something that gave some guidance for what to do in moving an HS2 script to HS3. Here's a few simple questions that such a guide would probably be pretty useful for: (1) hs.ExecX10() used to be a "universal" ON/OFF method, even for things that were not X10. If you just want to represent things in virtual devices as ON or OFF, how is that done now? (2) Previously, status and value were separate for devices. If we used both status and value before, what are some suggested ways to work around this now? (3) Previously, the hs.IsOn() and hs.IsOff() (both gone now) were pretty useful to check on status. Those are gone now. What are the alternatives?

I really think there are probably thousands of scripts for HS2 (maybe nearly a million lines of code), many of which people have written for their own personal use, and some which are used by lots of people. I believe it would be pretty useful for Rich/Rick to spend a little time trying to document the process, since they obviously have already had to go through it themselves.

The help file is really of only minimal use. It may help someone trying to write a new script from scratch, but even then lots of the examples are still in VBScript rather than VB.NET (supposedly not even supported under HS3). It appears to be the HS2 script help, moved to the new help framework and taking out the commands that are gone. Then the new CAPI stuff was tossed in, with no context to the old methods or the other remaining methods, so it appears to have no connection with anything.

Steve

[Rupp]

Oh, well... If that is the extent of what we'll see with respect to how to move scripts from HS2 to HS3, I guess I can say with some certainty that I probably won't ever bother. Not much help.

Steve

Steve,
Very little has changed in the scripting arena. So far all commands that I have tested are identical. The only issue I have is many of the commands haven't been converted yet.

[stevea]

Nope. See post #51 for the public link to the scripting info. I wasn't aware it had been made public.

Oh, well... If that is the extent of what we'll see with respect to how to move scripts from HS2 to HS3, I guess I can say with some certainty that I probably won't ever bother. Not much help.

Steve

[Rupp]

And so, those of us who have scripts that others are using with HS2 are left to tell them, "Nope" when asked if we are supporting or have any plans to support HS3.

Steve

Nope. See post #51 for the public link to the scripting info. I wasn't aware it had been made public.

[Wadenut]

And so, those of us who have scripts that others are using with HS2 are left to tell them, "Nope" when asked if we are supporting or have any plans to support HS3.

Steve

That's pretty much it for now. I expect the learning curve will be steep though. Getting started is the tough part. I have over 300 scripts of my own to try to port over... one at a time. Most of them are not so 'simple'.

Meantime, HS2 is running fine for me. Even though I've purchased an HS3 license, I feel no pressing need to upgrade, downgrade or sidegrade.

[stevea]

The documentation is listed in the HS3 private plugin forums.

And so, those of us who have scripts that others are using with HS2 are left to tell them, "Nope" when asked if we are supporting or have any plans to support HS3.

Steve

[rmasonjr]

Great, thank you very much, I look a little ca, can you tell me why this is more complicated than HS2?? I'm not a programmer, I just made a script for personal use, but since the beta release of HS3, everything seems complicated with the plug-in? Can you explain the difference? and thank you again for the info, c ca is what I wanted.

Hi Loup!
Yes, plugins overall are much more complex than simple scripting. Plugins allow you to integrate completely with HS and be able to inject your own Actions, Triggers and Conditions. You can also integrate a web page for status or configuration.

Scripts are much more single-focused. They generally perform a quick action, although you can get quite complex with scripting. Think of a script to just perform a quick function.

Hope this helps!

[Loup]

The scripting docs, along with the HS3 plugin docs were moved to the public forum on 6/8...

http://homeseer.com/support/homeseer...ng/default.htm

Great, thank you very much, I look a little ca, can you tell me why this is more complicated than HS2?? I'm not a programmer, I just made a script for personal use, but since the beta release of HS3, everything seems complicated with the plug-in? Can you explain the difference? and thank you again for the info, c ca is what I wanted.

[Wadenut]

HS3 is beta so there shouldn't be any bark or tree. You should rely on your HS2 setup unil HS3 is stable and test HS3 if you want to be a beta tester.

< Tongue in cheek > If the time taken to get the bugs out of HS2 is any indication, I could be old and grey (well, old... already grey) before HS3 becomes stable < /Tongue in cheek >

At any rate, I won't be doing much for several months. Summer is for outdoors. Currently scraping the house to re-paint.

I've already tried a few of my scripts. They error out. Haven't tried this one but expect the same.

[rmasonjr]

It's here and is only available if you signed the NDA for HS3 plugin development.
http://board.homeseer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1127

The scripting docs, along with the HS3 plugin docs were moved to the public forum on 6/8...

http://homeseer.com/support/homeseer...ng/default.htm

[Rupp]

Personally, I think they are much complicated with HS3, now I feel between the bark and the tree, Z-Wave works very well with HS3 but more suporte x10. Very few plog-in available enfain if you can come back with your script, it would be great. Thank you for your work.

loup

HS3 is beta so there shouldn't be any bark or tree. You should rely on your HS2 setup unil HS3 is stable and test HS3 if you want to be a beta tester.