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  • FortrezZ Water Flow Meter Installation

    I plan on installing 2 FortrezZ water flow meters to track the water consumption in my home. The installation instructions state the flow meters must be installed in a horizontal position. Both of my city meters are installed in a fairly compact space. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I would add the 2 meters in my set up? I would appreciate it if anyone could share pictures of their set up so I can see how others have done this.

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    Ultrajones
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  • #2
    Can you simply put them about the current meters. Like:
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    -Rupp
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    • #3
      Looking for pictures.

      Here the town let me upgrade my own water meter. I had one like the one you have above. New one was bigger and mostly plastic. It is relating to some new code about not using brass water meters.

      I had one of two water meters in place right by the city water meter.

      I had 1" pipes coming in.

      I redid all of the copper sweating new pipes and bends and kept a small footprint.

      I would too replace your valves with ball valves. Well mine are brass. I did utilize one brass elbow as it seemed sturdier to me than using a copper elbow.
      Last edited by Pete; June 20th, 2017, 03:27 PM.
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      • #4
        If I did much plumbing I would take the opportunity to put in smart main shut offs. I have one for house and one for sprinkler but now you have my curiosity up on flow sensors.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by chiphead View Post
          If I did much plumbing I would take the opportunity to put in smart main shut offs. I have one for house and one for sprinkler but now you have my curiosity up on flow sensors.


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          I am primary interested in the flow meters. I plan on developing a plug-in to support their flow meter.

          Regards,
          Ultrajones
          Plug-ins: UltraMon, UltraM1G, UltraCID, Ultra1Wire, UltraLog, UltraWeatherBug, UltraPioneerAVR, UltraGCIR

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          • #6
            I just bought one of these so I would be interested in what you come up with

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            • #7
              Can anymore confirm it's okay to install the Flow Meters vertically?

              Regards,
              Ultrajones
              Plug-ins: UltraMon, UltraM1G, UltraCID, Ultra1Wire, UltraLog, UltraWeatherBug, UltraPioneerAVR, UltraGCIR

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              • #8
                Well, I ended up installing them in a virtual position and they appear to be working great. UltraFlowMeter3 HSPI coming soon.

                Regards,
                Ultrajones
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                  • #10
                    There's a filter cup inside the meter. You only need to clean that out if your city/ well water is really dirty. Otherwise, no maintenance is required. That's a standard item in most meters so that sediment doesn't ruin the bearings and seals.

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                    • #11
                      I plan on installing the Fortress Flow Meter soon. I asked Fortrezz about the horizontal versus vertical orientation. They said that the horizontal orientation is what they recommend, but many users have installed them vertically and have had no issues. They said that the horizontal orientation recommendation is because the impeller wheel axis sits up /down when in horizontal orientation. Horizontal orientation provides the more reliable & accurate performance. Mounting it vertically puts the wheel on it's side and can cause the unit to be slightly less accurate.

                      I replied saying that my main goal is for determining if there is an unusually high level of water usage, so that I can investigate, and if needed, use my Z-Wave water shutoff valve to shutoff the water in an emergency. They said that for a water damage prevention system, a vertical orientation is fine. It's just that it's a little less accurate than the horizontal orientation. They wouldn't quote me an estimate on how much less accurate, but they said that the difference is small. For determining if there is a major water leak, it should be fine. But, for billing purposes, they recommend only the horizontal method. For my situation, it wouldn't be for billing purposes, since the city has their own water meter. Aside: my city's water meter has some sort of wireless interface (it's wired to some box that sits on the side of the house). Would be nice if there was a way to tap into that interface for Homeseer use, but I suppose such an interface wouldn't be provided to customers.

                      I'll get my plumber to install this, and see if a horizontal orientation would be reasonable to do (like Ultrajones, vertical orientation would be much easier in my existing setup).

                      Also, Fortezz recommends Ultrajones' plug-in!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rupp View Post
                        Can you simply put them about the current meters. Like:
                        Code:
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                        |____ meter____
                                      |
                         _____________|
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                        • #13
                          My plug-in should run on any system that HomeSeer3 runs on. I am not doing any Operating System checks, so if you're seeing something in the logs, you may want to confirm with HomeSeer that the version you're running is supported.

                          Regards,
                          Ultrajones
                          Plug-ins: UltraMon, UltraM1G, UltraCID, Ultra1Wire, UltraLog, UltraWeatherBug, UltraPioneerAVR, UltraGCIR

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                          • #14
                            What is everyone using for the flow meter sensor input is it analog or a digital pulse? What hardware (i.e. Fortress Flow meter) and flow sensor input are you using?


                            I have a Hunter Flow Meter which is wired to my Hydrawise sprinkler system.

                            I want a flow meter for the house connected the the HS3 system





                            Devoir

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by devoir View Post
                              What is everyone using for the flow meter sensor input is it analog or a digital pulse? What hardware (i.e. Fortress Flow meter) and flow sensor input are you using?

                              I have a Hunter Flow Meter which is wired to my Hydrawise sprinkler system.

                              I want a flow meter for the house connected the the HS3 system

                              Devoir
                              I used the FortrezZ Z-Wave flow meter connected to my HomeSeer system via the HomeSeer Z-NET. More information at http://www.fortrezz.com/flow-meter/

                              Regards,
                              Ultrajones
                              Plug-ins: UltraMon, UltraM1G, UltraCID, Ultra1Wire, UltraLog, UltraWeatherBug, UltraPioneerAVR, UltraGCIR

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