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    how do you keep people from tuning out TTS announcements?

    It seems that every 4-6 months my kids and/or wife begin to tune out "Alfred." he just becomes background noise to them. I've tried various things...changing volume, putting an attention chime/tone before the announcement, even changing the voice.

    I'm curious to know what other things people have done? Is there a way to keep it constantly random enough so that Alfred doesn't get "tuned out"?

    Thanks,

    Ian
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    #2
    I've never done it on purpose, but what works for me...
    Stop the annoucements for a day.

    We had gotten so used to the annoucements we were seemingly ignoring them. Then I turned them off for a few days (figuring out new baby sleep patterns).
    It was amazing... The phone would ring... and all conversationbs would stop as we waited to hear the callerID that never came.

    Monday Night came... no announcement... I almost missed taking the trash out... Thank goodness the recycling bin was over flowing.

    When I turned the speakers back on, you could hear a collective sigh of relief.

    - Dave

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      #3
      I have TTS setup with lots and lots of random phrases, you never know what it's gonna say. I find they listen here just to see how the normal announcements get spoken.
      Marty
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      Playing with HS3 a bit but it's just play at this point.

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        #4
        Teh ROC randomizer plugin is excellent for this application. It changes the delivery and keeps it fresh.
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          #5
          Not the exact one I'm using but, those who need will figure it out.
          Marty
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          Playing with HS3 a bit but it's just play at this point.

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            #6
            I preceed important TTS announcements with the door bell sound from Star Trek TNG.
            -Todd

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              #7
              Originally posted by completelyhis View Post
              It seems that every 4-6 months my kids and/or wife begin to tune out "Alfred." he just becomes background noise to them.
              What is the consequence of tuning out 'Alfred'? Are tasks not being accomplished because reminders are being ignored? Or, is there something else?

              Are you sure he is being tuned out, or is the message just no longer operating at the conscious level? I tend to use wav files rather than spoken words. Even the cats begin to learn what they mean and act on them. But, it's not at all uncommon to have no conscious recollection of hearing them, even when appropriate actions are taken.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Uncle Michael View Post
                Even the cats begin to learn what they mean and act on them.
                It's funny you say that - my cats flip-out when they hear 'front yard motion detected' which is an indication someone is nearing the front door. The other spoken reminders they couldnt care less about...
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                  #9
                  Cats are far from dumb. Mine know when I'm coming home (car announcement) and wait by the door. At dusk/dawn, there's an announcement just before the lights switch on/off and the drapes open/close. One of the cats comes running to watch the drapes move.

                  So far as people go: Hourly time announcements are followed by a random phrase (quotes, insults, etc.) chosen from a growing text file containing over 500 choices and growing. It's become a game here... "Who said that one?" These, the cats ignore. I guess they're not well read.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Uncle Michael View Post
                    What is the consequence of tuning out 'Alfred'? Are tasks not being accomplished because reminders are being ignored? Or, is there something else?

                    Are you sure he is being tuned out, or is the message just no longer operating at the conscious level? I tend to use wav files rather than spoken words. Even the cats begin to learn what they mean and act on them. But, it's not at all uncommon to have no conscious recollection of hearing them, even when appropriate actions are taken.
                    The reminders are not being consciously registered, or acted on. I had the day off yesterday driving the church bus on a field trip for my wife's school choir) so I got to be around the house during the morning routine. I was sitting there with my cup of coffee, enjoying the morning, and noticed that Alfred would say, "Please feed the dogs, you will be leaving soon." or something close to that. Well, the dogs didn't get fed. a little while later, he said, "Hey stinky breath boys, please remember to brush your teeth." Well, 0 out of 3 boys had brushed their teeth 10 minutes later, and they were needing to be headed out the door for school. I know they "heard" the words...but they were probably no more than back ground noise, because it's the same thing they've heard hundreds of mornings all the school year, same time, same volume, same verbiage.

                    I like the idea of "randomizing" the TTS announcements. I'm going to try to set that up this weekend.

                    BTW, the boys do listen to the announcement about only having one minute left for their shower, but that could have something to do with the lights turning off at the end of that minute! :-)
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                      #11
                      Randomizing the announcements made the WAF go way up! I try to update the saying every few months too, just to keep everyone on our toes. Guests really get a kick out of it too.
                      Bryan
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by completelyhis View Post
                        BTW, the boys do listen to the announcement about only having one minute left for their shower, but that could have something to do with the lights turning off at the end of that minute! :-)
                        I think you've hit on at least part of the solution. Nagging reminders quickly lose their punch if ignoring them is all that is required to avoid something that is viewed as an imposition. The reminders might be more productive if they were perceived as helpful - to avoid an undesirable consequence that follows not doing what needs to be done, for example.
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                          #13
                          I don't have this setup right now, but I used to get a nagging reminder that required me to go and actually clean the cat litter or it wouldn't stop nagging.

                          I put x10 big red button next to the litter box that I'd have to hit, to disable the every 5 minute nagging.

                          Ultimately I disabled it because it was so annoying.

                          Some ideas I've had were to use a appliance module on the TV, or some device that I really want to use that can't be enabled until the nag chores were done. I had an active RFID tag on the trash can and it would bug me to move the trash until I actually moved it to the street... this example was actually very successful, as I didn't have an easy way to disable or snooze that nag.

                          I've though of flashing lights too... like a mini strobe in my bedroom that would strobe once a minute or something until I did the chores, that way I couldn't go to bed and fall asleep until I fixed it... (dual purpose could be used to wake you up, don't turn it off until the shower water is running)
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                            #14
                            I like it! I have enough awareness around the house so that alfred knows if they do something or not...i don't mind making it a bit more annoying until they do it!

                            Great idea.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by zimmer62 View Post
                              I don't have this setup right now, but I used to get a nagging reminder that required me to go and actually clean the cat litter or it wouldn't stop nagging.

                              I put x10 big red button next to the litter box that I'd have to hit, to disable the every 5 minute nagging.

                              Ultimately I disabled it because it was so annoying.
                              This is interesting..

                              We have problems with the cat liter as well..

                              Could you program something .. recurring that did:

                              Thursday night... 6:00 p.m.. Announce.. "I think it's time to change the litter."

                              If the Big Red Button hasn't been pushed yet..
                              Friday night... 6 and 7:PM announce " You really should change the liter."

                              If the big red button still hasnt' been pushed..
                              Friday night .. 10:00 p.m. ... "You really don't want me to wake you up at 8:00 in the morning for the cat litter do you?"

                              Saturday morning 8:00 A.M... "The cat is plotting your demise as we speak..."
                              Saturday and 10:00 a.m. and every 2 hours until button is pressed..
                              "I'm probably annoying you .. but you know it isn't much fun for me either.. change the litter."

                              I could have a virtual that is set "on" every thursday at 6:00 p.m... and is reset when the big red button is pressed..

                              But would i have a seperate event for each of the above reminders?.. or could it be scripted with some kind of ini file.. (to make it more flexible and universal.. (trash every hour on thursday night.... Check spa chemicals every saturday through sunday.. etc..)

                              What would be the best way to go about this?
                              Regards,

                              Andrew B.

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