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    Homeseer announcements (TTS) through Alexa. aka: You don't need IFTTT anymore.

    Alexa seems to have been updated so it will speak announcements in real time. All ring cameras and doorbells can now sent motion and button alerts through the Alexa app. Not only will Alexa speak that motion or a ring has been detected (even with your own text) you can trigger scenes and other action through routines.

    I'm no longer triggering my motion and doorbell events using ring through Alexa and no longer using IFTTT. It also seems to be much quicker.

    I'm wondering if HS is aware of this and is finding out what they need to do so we can send TTS through Alexa?
    HomeSeer Version: HS3 Standard Edition 3.0.0.548
    Linux version: Linux auto 4.15.0-72-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 26 12:20:02 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    Number of Devices: 484 | Number of Events: 776

    Enabled Plug-Ins: 3.0.0.13: AirplaySpeak | 2.0.61.0: BLBackup
    3.0.0.70: EasyTrigger | 1.3.7006.42100: LiftMaster MyQ
    4.2.3.0: mcsMQTT | 3.0.0.53: PHLocation2 | 0.0.0.47: Pushover 3P
    3.0.0.16: RaspberryIO | 3.0.1.262: Z-Wave

    Z-Net version: 1.0.23 for Inclusion Nodes
    SmartStick+: 6.04 (ZDK 6.81.3) on Server

    #2
    Originally posted by Timon View Post
    Alexa seems to have been updated so it will speak announcements in real time. All ring cameras and doorbells can now sent motion and button alerts through the Alexa app. Not only will Alexa speak that motion or a ring has been detected (even with your own text) you can trigger scenes and other action through routines.

    I'm no longer triggering my motion and doorbell events using ring through Alexa and no longer using IFTTT. It also seems to be much quicker.

    I'm wondering if HS is aware of this and is finding out what they need to do so we can send TTS through Alexa?
    That would be great!


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    HS3 3.0.0.548 &HSTouch Designer 3.0.71 with 996 Devices, 547 Events
    Plugin's:
    BLBackup, BLOccupied, BLShutdown, EasyTrigger, Ecobee, Nest, AK Bond
    EnvisaLink DSC, PHLocation, Pushover, SONOS, Blue Iris, UltraRachio3,
    weatherXML, Jon00 Alexa Helper, Network Monitor, MyQ, Z-Wave 3.0.1.252

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      #3
      Ooh exciting if true. So ring is the only skill that can send TTS at the moment?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Fellhahn View Post
        Ooh exciting if true. So ring is the only skill that can send TTS at the moment?
        The ISY994 can do this also...
        Don't you wish your house could talk to you?

        Now It Can!
        Do you know what your house is doing?

        Well, now, you can! Through Amazon Echo/Alexa, now your ISY can literally tell you about a wide variety of events/things in your house. For instance:
        Garage door is left open, pool pump is still on, water/gas leak, the kids are still awake after 10:00 PM, someone is in your backyard after 9:00 PM, ….
        Getting Started

        Contest for Geeks!

        Enter our "Do you know what your house is doing" contest for a 6 months extension of your ISY Portal Subscription. All you need to do is:
        • Submit your video of how our magnificent technology is letting your house tell you what it's doing
        • Agree to share it with the public
        The authors of up to 200 most innovative, imaginative, or otherwise geeky videos will be awarded the ISY Portal Subscription extension. Deadline for submission is 12/01/2018. Let's Go!

        Now let's take your home to where no home has gone before!

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          #5
          I had been pondering getting an ISY for testing/comparison. Maybe this will be the reason to do that.

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            #6
            Originally posted by upstatemike View Post

            The ISY994 can do this also...
            Don't you wish your house could talk to you?

            Now It Can!
            Do you know what your house is doing?

            Well, now, you can! Through Amazon Echo/Alexa, now your ISY can literally tell you about a wide variety of events/things in your house. For instance:
            Garage door is left open, pool pump is still on, water/gas leak, the kids are still awake after 10:00 PM, someone is in your backyard after 9:00 PM, ….
            Getting Started

            Contest for Geeks!

            Enter our "Do you know what your house is doing" contest for a 6 months extension of your ISY Portal Subscription. All you need to do is:
            • Submit your video of how our magnificent technology is letting your house tell you what it's doing
            • Agree to share it with the public
            The authors of up to 200 most innovative, imaginative, or otherwise geeky videos will be awarded the ISY Portal Subscription extension. Deadline for submission is 12/01/2018. Let's Go!

            Now let's take your home to where no home has gone before!
            Is this something that I could trigger from HS? It looks like it triggers just from Alexa routines?


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            HS3 3.0.0.548 &HSTouch Designer 3.0.71 with 996 Devices, 547 Events
            Plugin's:
            BLBackup, BLOccupied, BLShutdown, EasyTrigger, Ecobee, Nest, AK Bond
            EnvisaLink DSC, PHLocation, Pushover, SONOS, Blue Iris, UltraRachio3,
            weatherXML, Jon00 Alexa Helper, Network Monitor, MyQ, Z-Wave 3.0.1.252

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              #7
              From what I can tell HS needs to provide a Alexa device driver so it can send triggers to Alexa. Once that’s done that device driver can send both a direct TTS string, from what I can tell only to a single Alexa at this time, and or trigger an Alexa routine. However, currently it takes one routine per Alexa you want to speak.

              Although i I have a Amazon developer account and will try to find more I’ve not very quick at finding stuff in the huge amount of documentation they have.
              HomeSeer Version: HS3 Standard Edition 3.0.0.548
              Linux version: Linux auto 4.15.0-72-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 26 12:20:02 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
              Number of Devices: 484 | Number of Events: 776

              Enabled Plug-Ins: 3.0.0.13: AirplaySpeak | 2.0.61.0: BLBackup
              3.0.0.70: EasyTrigger | 1.3.7006.42100: LiftMaster MyQ
              4.2.3.0: mcsMQTT | 3.0.0.53: PHLocation2 | 0.0.0.47: Pushover 3P
              3.0.0.16: RaspberryIO | 3.0.1.262: Z-Wave

              Z-Net version: 1.0.23 for Inclusion Nodes
              SmartStick+: 6.04 (ZDK 6.81.3) on Server

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                #8
                Sometimes you just get lucky. I found this announcement which I think covers this ability. I’m not sure as I still studying it.

                https://developer.amazon.com/blogs/a...ome-developers
                HomeSeer Version: HS3 Standard Edition 3.0.0.548
                Linux version: Linux auto 4.15.0-72-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 26 12:20:02 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
                Number of Devices: 484 | Number of Events: 776

                Enabled Plug-Ins: 3.0.0.13: AirplaySpeak | 2.0.61.0: BLBackup
                3.0.0.70: EasyTrigger | 1.3.7006.42100: LiftMaster MyQ
                4.2.3.0: mcsMQTT | 3.0.0.53: PHLocation2 | 0.0.0.47: Pushover 3P
                3.0.0.16: RaspberryIO | 3.0.1.262: Z-Wave

                Z-Net version: 1.0.23 for Inclusion Nodes
                SmartStick+: 6.04 (ZDK 6.81.3) on Server

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Amazon
                  So now, with the appropriately configured smart home skill or connected Zigbee sensor, a customer can ask, "Alexa, is the master bedroom window open?" and Alexa will respond with its status.
                  I like the sound of this, would be nice to check if I left the downstairs light on etc.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Timon View Post
                    Once that’s done that device driver can send both a direct TTS string, from what I can tell only to a single Alexa at this time
                    Where did you read this? Somewhere deeper in their dev documentation I'm guessing?

                    I've gone over the linked article, triggering an Alexa Routine with a saved announcement seems simple enough. But being able to configure it all from within HS would of course be great.

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                      #11
                      That was from how the Ring works. The driver has the ability to directly speak but controlling to which Echo is a crapshoot. The rest is how the Routines function.

                      Ill try try to post some photos in the morning.
                      HomeSeer Version: HS3 Standard Edition 3.0.0.548
                      Linux version: Linux auto 4.15.0-72-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 26 12:20:02 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
                      Number of Devices: 484 | Number of Events: 776

                      Enabled Plug-Ins: 3.0.0.13: AirplaySpeak | 2.0.61.0: BLBackup
                      3.0.0.70: EasyTrigger | 1.3.7006.42100: LiftMaster MyQ
                      4.2.3.0: mcsMQTT | 3.0.0.53: PHLocation2 | 0.0.0.47: Pushover 3P
                      3.0.0.16: RaspberryIO | 3.0.1.262: Z-Wave

                      Z-Net version: 1.0.23 for Inclusion Nodes
                      SmartStick+: 6.04 (ZDK 6.81.3) on Server

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                        #12
                        This explains the following in the Alexa app:

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                        If a try to create a new routine, and select "Device" as the trigger type, no supported devices are found. I have several lights/switches from HomeSeer that are controllable from Alexa, but of course the reverse hasn't been possible until now.

                        So I guess this a difference of push vs poll, or unilateral vs bilateral communication. Up to now, Alexa has been able to push commands down to HomeSeer and other hubs in order to turn on lights. And it's been able to poll those hubs for a list of available devices.

                        Now the hubs will be able to push status changes up to Alexa, and as Timon said that will remove the need for IFTTT.

                        rjh Any early thoughts on how this might integrate with HS3 virtual devices? We have the voice check box now, will another checkbox be required that enables or disables state pushes to Alexa? How different does this look to the IFTTT feature when that was added in the past?

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                          #13
                          When I choose device and get the third page I have my Ring camera. Once HS updates the SmartHome app then HS3 should show up.

                          Also part if this update you’ll be able to read back device status and read temps. It really looks like a lot of features have been added to Alexa.

                          Now I'll just have to wait till HS can upgrade the SmartHome app. HS, can you give us any updates?
                          Last edited by Timon; October 12, 2018, 09:26 AM.
                          HomeSeer Version: HS3 Standard Edition 3.0.0.548
                          Linux version: Linux auto 4.15.0-72-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 26 12:20:02 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
                          Number of Devices: 484 | Number of Events: 776

                          Enabled Plug-Ins: 3.0.0.13: AirplaySpeak | 2.0.61.0: BLBackup
                          3.0.0.70: EasyTrigger | 1.3.7006.42100: LiftMaster MyQ
                          4.2.3.0: mcsMQTT | 3.0.0.53: PHLocation2 | 0.0.0.47: Pushover 3P
                          3.0.0.16: RaspberryIO | 3.0.1.262: Z-Wave

                          Z-Net version: 1.0.23 for Inclusion Nodes
                          SmartStick+: 6.04 (ZDK 6.81.3) on Server

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                            #14
                            Here are a few screens that show how this is done.

                            First is the device settings for my Ring Pro. From here you can have it announce doorbell and motion alerts however you can't select which Echo device it's going to. I see that as a serious bug but I'm going to try and fine out if it is or Ring just didn't set up the device correctly. I think that the device type will be HUB for HS3 once MyHS is setup to handle this.

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                            Next screen shows where you add and edit routines to use devices. The reason there are two for motion is so I can send notification to the other two Echos that I couldn't select when I created the device. I'm gong to change this to three routines and turn off the announcements in the device since I have no idea if they could change in the future. I'm going to try and find out why you can't do multiple echo selects in routines.

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                            This routine does two function, send an alert to HS3 and announce on an Echo that motion has happened. Things I read on this screen lead me to think that the routine is running as if it was actually running on that Echo. Again questions that can only be answered by Amazon.

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                            This screen is much like the previous one except it only speaks. Again this is nuts that you can have all Echos do this from the same routine.

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                            HomeSeer Version: HS3 Standard Edition 3.0.0.548
                            Linux version: Linux auto 4.15.0-72-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 26 12:20:02 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
                            Number of Devices: 484 | Number of Events: 776

                            Enabled Plug-Ins: 3.0.0.13: AirplaySpeak | 2.0.61.0: BLBackup
                            3.0.0.70: EasyTrigger | 1.3.7006.42100: LiftMaster MyQ
                            4.2.3.0: mcsMQTT | 3.0.0.53: PHLocation2 | 0.0.0.47: Pushover 3P
                            3.0.0.16: RaspberryIO | 3.0.1.262: Z-Wave

                            Z-Net version: 1.0.23 for Inclusion Nodes
                            SmartStick+: 6.04 (ZDK 6.81.3) on Server

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                              #15
                              In the UK my Ring devices are not showing an 'Announce' section or triggers in the Alexa app. Saying that I only have a Ring v1 doorbell and two Stick up cameras so I don't know if its a device capability thing or the UK Alexa framework lagging behind the US framework.

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