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Running HS on a VLAN with Ubiquiti

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  • #16
    Originally posted by NetworkGuy View Post
    Thank you, RoChess. Can you tell me what "SPF+" means? I missed asking about it earlier.
    Simplest explanation is that they are universal ports that you slide an adapter in to either connect 10Gbps fiber optic cables to, or copper based ones. This gives full flexibility to what you want to expand with in the future without having to replace primary unit.

    For more details, Google

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kerat View Post
      I love my Unifi products. I have been running a US-24-250w as my Poe switch and a UAP-AC-LITE for the last 3 years. I now run my Unifi controller on an ubuntu VM on my ESXi host. Originally I had it loaded on an old RPI I had laying around.

      For a firewall I run PFsense. For hardware I have a dual gigabit NIC mini PC based on an Intel i5-5200u (2 core 4 thread 2.2Ghz/2.7Ghz), 8GB of RAM AND A 74GB SSD HDD. It is a powerful tool and allows me to run
      DHCP
      DDNS
      local DNS server
      (all public requests are secured through DoT (DNS over TLS with Cloudflare, DNS requests to other sources are redirected back to my local DNS server and routed over DOT)
      DNS filtering (PFBlockerNG)
      Public IP filtering (PFBLOCKERNG)
      VLANs
      IDS
      CODELQ queuing
      Reverse proxy to handle requests from inside and outside my network.
      VPN support for access to my local network when I am on the public Internet
      VPN private browsing of the public Internet

      At home I have some 44 devices counting:
      Firewall
      ESXi host
      VMServers
      VM NAS
      Old Netgear READYNAS
      IOT HA device’s
      Media streamers
      Security cameras
      Smart TVs
      HTPCs
      Network TV Tuners
      PCs
      Laptops
      Tablets
      iPods
      Smartphones
      Console Systems
      On the network spanning some 7 VLANs. I do this to segregate
      1. untrusted devices that don’t need Internet,
      2. untrusted devices that need Internet access,
      3. devices that need access to a network managed private VPN for browsing,
      4. personal devices,
      5. network management VLAN,
      6. server VLAN.
      7. Storage VLAN.

      While I like he Unifi Interface, it’s primary problem as a monitoring tool is that it is not platform agnostic. I use it for configuration, and patch management, But use a different central network monitoring tool to keep track of all my network, server, and storage equipment which I have tied to my pushover account for notifications.

      I actually am planning on upgrading my network backbone to 10Gbps from my inside LAN interface on my firewall through my switch and to my ESXi host and primary NAS. I am currently waiting on a US-48-500w, and a pair of HD wireless APs.

      Once I have those I have a few options. I could virtualize my PFsense firewall or I could build a new firewall. My hope is to virtualize my firewall on my ESXi host. My big reason for this is to cut down on total wattage. Currently, I sit at .145 Kilowatts/hour on my network rack). This costs me an additional $13.6 per month to run. while this is easily 6 times more than the average home with a modem and prosumer wireless router and no dedicated Poe switch, and redundant NAS environments.

      My next purchase will be a Chelsio T520-SO-CR 10Gbps SFP+ NIC. I will install it on my ESXi home server and virtualize my PFsense firewall on it and adjust my network topology to make it the core firewall. Since my wan will still be limited to 1 GBPs I will use the onboard Intel i210 nic for my wan port.


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      I'm just curious? How come you use pfSense vs unifi's firewall capabilities?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tomgru View Post

        I'm just curious? How come you use pfSense vs unifi's firewall capabilities?
        A lot of this is preference. You can do almost anything you want in PFsense, and the USG. In PFsense the configuration is completely up to you. I have used and learned Cisco ASA, USG, and PFsense/netgate, and Sonicwall firewalls in both homelab and while consulting/working. So, I was pretty comfortable with their terminal interfaces as well as their GUIs.

        Here, at the time I was in the market to replace my old home router (prosumer router with a custom firmware), I was in love with my new Unifi AP. I considered the Unifi USG product but determined I could build a PFsense system from a mini pc for less (I paid $260 for the hardware on my PFsense build and could support close to gigabit throughput with all the features I wanted turned on.

        Aside from network features I wanted simplified device management, patching, configuration backups, and network monitoring (throughput (WAN, internal VLANS), network equipment monitoring (up/down/uptime), security related reports (top talkers, firewall inbound/outbound blocked events, out of normal traffic (TOD, total throughput, etc), IDS events, DNSBL/blocked public IP hits/additions, remote access request-source IP. The Unifi controller does a great job of handling device management and patching. I use a different system for monitoring because I want some reporting that I wasn’t able to find in the Unifi controller GUI.

        The next firewall I want to learn is Fortinet.


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        • #19
          Originally posted by srodgers View Post
          Yes I have Ubiquity ER-POE5 router and and an Edge Switch 24 POE 250W.

          I ave several VLANs configured and found this excellent guide that I followed and tailored to my setup.

          I have a VLAN for IP security cameras and Blue Iris VMS. VLAN keeps camera isolated but accessible by Blue Iris and HS.

          https://www.handymanhowto.com/ubiqui...etwork-design/
          How are you keeping the cameras isolated if you're allowing HS access? I'm in the process of trying to do the same thing, but if I have to allow packets from the cameras to the HS server, how is that protecting my server from something rogue on the camera VLAN?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by weslsew View Post

            How are you keeping the cameras isolated if you're allowing HS access? I'm in the process of trying to do the same thing, but if I have to allow packets from the cameras to the HS server, how is that protecting my server from something rogue on the camera VLAN?
            I've configured mine so only established and related traffic is allowed from camera vlan to the vlan where HS resides. New traffic is dropped. That way HS has to initiate the connection.
            -Wade

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cc4005 View Post

              I've configured mine so only established and related traffic is allowed from camera vlan to the vlan where HS resides. New traffic is dropped. That way HS has to initiate the connection.
              that makes sense - how do you do that?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by weslsew View Post

                that makes sense - how do you do that?
                Are you asking specifically about doing it in UniFi Controller? In general terms, it's 2 LAN IN rules:
                1. Allow all established and related traffic from camera vlan to secure vlan;
                2. Drop all traffic from camera vlan to secure vlan.

                Since rules are applied in order, this effectively means allow established/related and block everything else.
                -Wade

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by cc4005 View Post

                  Are you asking specifically about doing it in UniFi Controller? In general terms, it's 2 LAN IN rules:
                  1. Allow all established and related traffic from camera vlan to secure vlan;
                  2. Drop all traffic from camera vlan to secure vlan.

                  Since rules are applied in order, this effectively means allow established/related and block everything else.
                  I'm using HPE equipment but I just learned that there is an established rule:

                  permit tcp 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 established

                  seems to be working, thanks!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RoChess View Post

                    Simplest explanation is that they are universal ports that you slide an adapter in to either connect 10Gbps fiber optic cables to, or copper based ones. This gives full flexibility to what you want to expand with in the future without having to replace primary unit.

                    For more details, Google
                    Thanks, that explanation helps a lot. I am a bit familiar with connectors to add compatible hardware/technologies. I just don't recall hearing the ports called SPF or SPF+.

                    New question. Found a Ubiquity wireless device. Wondering if it makes sense to pick one up now or wait if a newer version is coming out. There are two model available (same?):

                    UAP-AC-PRO-US
                    --or--
                    UAP-AC-PRO

                    Price is $120

                    Can you tell me if this access point is being updated and is this a good price?

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                    • #25
                      The UAP-AC-PRO-US is locked to only support channel 1-11 per FCC bands available for official 2.4Ghz usage in the USA. The other model has the same range, but also allows European bands 12-14 if memory serves me. I've used channel 14 once when the street was just crowded with WiFi routers and devices kept channel hopping, but it is in violation of FCC rules, so that is your call.

                      Those are still the latest versions and no Early Access replacements announced, so you would be good to go on those.

                      Ubiquiti will update firmwares as needed, but eventually that will end obviously, but then you also reach a point that if it ain't broke, don't fix it

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RoChess View Post
                        The UAP-AC-PRO-US is locked to only support channel 1-11 per FCC bands available for official 2.4Ghz usage in the USA. The other model has the same range, but also allows European bands 12-14 if memory serves me. I've used channel 14 once when the street was just crowded with WiFi routers and devices kept channel hopping, but it is in violation of FCC rules, so that is your call.

                        Those are still the latest versions and no Early Access replacements announced, so you would be good to go on those.

                        Ubiquiti will update firmwares as needed, but eventually that will end obviously, but then you also reach a point that if it ain't broke, don't fix it
                        Cool, thank you! Appreciate all the information!

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