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  • Pete
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    Happy Easter Homeseer users!!!!

    Note here this is NOT a WiFi compatible thermostat; rather it is a Z-Wave thermostat. I am still waiting for an ESP based WiFi thermostat that I can update to Tasmota. It does not exist at this time and there is no way that I will connect my thermostat to the vendors cloud at this time.

    We are getting close though..."fat lady has not sung yet"

    Tasmota Thermostat

    Here installed Ring alarm / doorbell et al in house two. I went looking for a Ring compatible thermostat and picked a Honeywell ZWave thermostat. Works perfectly and is not managed by the cloud and not dependent on the cloud. I can manage Ring using my smart phone but do not. The Ring app is mostly an advertisement for Ring these days.

    The Ring hub in house two is connected POE to a switch in the house and it does fail over to a built in LTE modem built in to the hub.

    What I am using that works well is a Ring to MQTT bridge. Ring-mqtt with video streaming. The Ring system is Internet dependent and very different from my locally install OmniPro 2 panel with all sensors that are wired. Thermostat in main house is serially wired and tested a Zigbee connected thermostat which works but is much slower to me than the serially wired thermostat. There is a new Homeseer 3rd party plugin for Ring these days. I am still looking for a Thermostat (ESP based) that I can convert to Tasmota. There is none right now.



    Z-Wave thermostat that I am using is the Honeywell TH6320ZW2003 T6 Pro Series Z-Wave Stat purchased on Amazon. Nothing fancy at all and it works well and is not Wifi and internet dependant. House two is mostly WiFi Tasmota devices locally managed. That and I have one Homeseer Touchscreen in main house that connects via VPN to house two Homeseer and works well. (infrastructure here and there is ....now managed POE switches, Ruckus APs and PFSense firewalls.) PFSense is doing OpenVPN which works fine with my Android phones and Linux laptops (and Windows 11 tablets / laptops).

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    In both homes now have temperature and or temperature humidity sensors in every room of the house. Originally it was an extensive 1-Wire network. Now it is a hybrid of that using Tasmota wireless sensors.



    Here is a local home with a remote view of house number two Ring using Home Assistant which you can do with Homeseer mcsMQTT add on.

    There are more contact sensors and PIRs than are listed here. I am using the motion sensors with the local Alexa devices (on the cloud) TTS these days.

    This is a Home Assistant view that you can do with mcsMQTT (except for the alarm keypad). I am using myQ in house two (hate it) and prefer my DIY'd combo Tasmota button, two sensors, temperature sensor basic device way better in main house. (and wired GDO to alarm panel stuff).



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  • mulu
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    I am kind of in the same boat as the OP. We are thinking of replacing at least one of our HVAC systems with a heat pump which are all variable speed. All those systems come with their own thermostats and from the VERY limited research I did there is no integration, closed system. If anybody knows a heatpump HVAC system that integrates with HS I am all ears.
    With our current system we use Trane XL624 thermostats that are banned into closets. These thermostats are z-wave so natively integrate into HS. Control is done through wall mounted tablets. That is how I want the new system to work. I don't want a thermostat on the wall and a tablet on the wall for all the other non-HVAC stuff. That also means the thermostat need to work solely with remote sensors (with the internal temperature sensor disabled).

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  • Sheriff
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    Variable Refrigerant Flow. I’ll look your model up.

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  • andyf
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    Not sure what a VRF system is. The wiring manual I have shows the furnace to be a SL280UHV.

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  • Sheriff
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    Andyf, is yours a VRF system? I don’t think the VRFs have those jumpers.

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  • andyf
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    I have a Lennox iComfort system. But I also use a regular Z-Wave thermostat with it. There are jumpers and cut-outs on the furnace control board to tell the system whether you're using a regular single/dual phase thermostat or an iComfort thermostat. Of course, with a regular thermostat you do lose some of the intelligence of the iComfort system such as the built in diagnostics and automatic notification of system problems.

    But it still works well with a regular thermostat if configured properly.

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  • Michael McSharry
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    There will not be a local integration, but it is possible for internet-based integration such as with https://github.com/thevoltagesource/myicomfort. I have done a few thermostat integrations with HS. The hardest part is usually overcoming the authentication requirements for access to the user account. I'm willing to give it a try after I finish other projects.

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  • julietalpha
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    It would be great if someone would write a plug in for the Lennox iComfort communicating thermostats. I have the brand new iComfort S40 - and it surely has an API. They advertise google, IFTTT, and Control4 integration. (Google uses this site to connect to it externalgateway.myicomfort.com​). I'll be happy to beta test!

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  • tome10
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    There's no integration for lennox.

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  • Wade
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    You'll need a specific integration for the thermostat you plan to use--or at least for the Lennox cloud server. Post the specific model(s) that you're able to use and perhaps someone can point you in the right direction. I have a Trane zoned system in one location, and no HS integration exists as the Nexia interface is closed and no-one has reverse engineered a solution. I don't possess the requisite skills (if it's even possible).

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  • Sheriff
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    Perhaps I wasn’t clear, but “non Wi-Fi” is not an option if I go with the new equipment. The Lennox Variable Refrigerant Flow system offers some irresistible advantages in my application, BUT, the system brains are inside the Lennox proprietary thermostat...their Wi-Fi tstat must be used. So, I need an interface from HS3 to Wi-Fi. Does that exist?

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  • RoChess
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    Went from Nest at old location to 3x Remotec ZTS-500US at current new location and couldn't be happier. No more big-data-cloud worries, no more lets-kill-this-API-tomorrow worries, and flawless HomeSeer control.

    They do lack humidity and only have a temperature sensor, but I've got a dozen other Z-Wave sensors that can provide those values along with motion/etc. so not a huge loss for me. Have no need for other integrations such as HomeKit, Google Assistant, etc. but if they support Z-Wave then it would work as-is for those as well, and can always tie them to your HomeSeer box if that is needed.

    Keeping my automated home smart during an internet outage (and to some extend power outage) is important to me, and I'm still not happy Google has knowledge on when I turned on my heat for 6 years and keep filing removal of data requests, but who knows how much those are respected.

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  • jvm
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    I'm on the opposite side from cc4005 / tome10 and like the "other" integrations that WiFi thermostats can provide - e.g., HomeKit, Google Assistant, etc. For me, that's a bigger advantage than direct Z-Wave interfacing.

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  • Wade
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    I agree with tome10 that you might want to avoid wifi tstats--at least those that rely on a cloud connection. I have 2 nest and 2 Honeywell WiFi tstats, and the cloud connection is an ongoing issue for both since the PI developers have to regularly react to changes in the API (nest is a particular problem right now--read about it elsewhere on the forum). I'm in process of changing to z-wave units to eliminate the cloud variable. I'm currently testing the Remotec ZTS-500US and it's doing well so far.

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  • tome10
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    Maybe you should abstain from WiFi TStats, and go with a z-wave type. I use the Trane XL624 which has humidity. The main problem with any of these tstats is you can’t control the onboard temp sensor. I wish I had a unit that I could just use the onboard temp sensor just as a sensor, and then have any of the other sensors call the shots. It’ll be burning up in the master bedroom due to sun through window, but the main Tatar temp is cool and won’t call for air. I attempted to set the stat’s cool or beat settings arbitrarily up or down a couple of degrees, but that proved problematic. Perhaps I’ll revisit some day.


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