steinel z-wave outdoor sensor

[Kernal69]

I have some outdoor sensors Steinel IS 140-2 that is connected with z-wave.
Homeseer detect them as notification sensors with unknown manufacturer.
They works but strange things happens.
First then i adds them with homeseer it will associat them to group 1 , 2 ,3 to homeseer.
This does not work without removing group 2.
After that all works.
But after a while all associations disappears suddenly and no sensor data is reported to homeseer.
I can still turn on and off switch.
Why is this happen ?

And if i rescan the sensor sometimes associations are added but also other child devices are added that i did not have before and that is not relevant for the sensor.
Why is this happen ?

And one more question.
Is there a way to add this unknown manufacture to Homeseer so it is detected correctly ?
Is there some kind of database or must Homeseer company do this ?

[mikee123]

I have 2 of those (bought only a few months ago). I never changed any associations, and they work fine. The only problem I have with them, and I suspect its not the sensor but problems with my network, they get 'stuck' and need a power cycle to work again. I have temporarilt solved this problem by powering them via a on/off module, and if the lux value they report does not update for 1 hour an event will power cycle them. But, as I said, I had a faulty motion sensor on my network which was flooding the network and causing all sorts of issues. I do not know yet if that was causing the Steinels to get stuck, I need more time to see if they trigger the power cycle event, that only happend every few days.

Have you tried excluding them, and including close to the Z-Net or whatever you use ? Maybe they have not included properly. Did you see any errors when you inluded them ?

[Kernal69]

Strange that yours works without removing group2 associaction.
If i keep it the whole z-wave network goes down and nothing works.
One of mine also stucks sometime.
But i only use the "Reset application status" and it works again.
I have found out that this one have firmware 0.48 and my other have 1.0.
I have contacted Steinel for firmware update file but i have not yet got any.

Yes i have excluded one of them and included it again but the problem remains.
No errors then i include them but as i said if i don't remove group2 association directly after everything goes wrong.
Maybe it's a combination with my controler.
I use z-wave.me.

I think this sensors are really bad.
I only have had problem with them.

[mikee123]

I have just checked mine. They are both firmware 1.0

This is what my associations look like, I have not changed them and they work fine

[ScottRennie]

Strange that yours works without removing group2 associaction.
If i keep it the whole z-wave network goes down and nothing works.
One of mine also stucks sometime.
But i only use the "Reset application status" and it works again.
I have found out that this one have firmware 0.48 and my other have 1.0.
I have contacted Steinel for firmware update file but i have not yet got any.

Yes i have excluded one of them and included it again but the problem remains.
No errors then i include them but as i said if i don't remove group2 association directly after everything goes wrong.
Maybe it's a combination with my controler.
I use z-wave.me.

I think this sensors are really bad.
I only have had problem with them.

I had similar problems along with
- very difficult to include / exclude
- Device trampled over existing z-wave devices
- light hangs in the ON state quite often

Caused a load of problems requiring a rebuild of my HS system - I would avoid adding to HS and just use them as floods

[Kernal69]

Very interesting to know.
Then i know it not just my z-wave network that is behaving strange with this sensors.

The question is , what can be done to make it work ?
Is it Homeseer that is incompatible with this sensors ?

[Kernal69]

To Mikee123:
Have you tried to restart Homeseer with group2 association active to the sensor ?
My z-wave network goes down if i do it.

[ScottRennie]

Very interesting to know.
Then i know it not just my z-wave network that is behaving strange with this sensors.

The question is , what can be done to make it work ?
Is it Homeseer that is incompatible with this sensors ?

I suspect it might be Homeseer - When I included the 1st Steinel light, it overwrote an existing z-wave device and then proceeded to screw the entire z-wave database. Every device I added after that was allocated an existing device ID so I had to start from scratch - the devices didn't take long, but the events did!!

I don't know how to make it work and I don't intend trying again!! There are other z-wave PIR/Floods available - might try one of them when I'm feeling brave!

I just have them running as dumb floods - for that job, they are quite good apart from - they have a tendency to hang & there's no sensitivity control on the PIR

Cheers
Scott

[mikee123]

To Mikee123:
Have you tried to restart Homeseer with group2 association active to the sensor ?
My z-wave network goes down if i do it.

Not sure what you mean, mine included as shown in post #4, and I never changed the association and I have the same for both of the sensors I have.

[Guest]

I also bought one IS-140-2. Inclusion went relatively easy, indeed seen as unknown manufacturer. In my first try I changed some of the parameters but the lights were quite unstable. Second try, after succesfully excluding and then including again, I left the parameters on default. The sensor shows correctly when motion is detected, but the lights turn on multiple times a day (daylight/night) and can only turn them off by first put them to the on-status (as Homeseer doesn't detect it's on) and only then I'm able to turn it off.

Could someone share their parameter settings? I think my wishes are rather standard (during day motion sensor doesn't trigger light, but after it is getting dark, motion sensor should trigger light for X minutes)... Or should I change the associations, now being three (as also shown in the post above)?