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    HS4 vs Hubitat

    So I’m hoping for a friendly discussion on what everyone’s thoughts are.

    Why Homeseer over Hubitat?

    #2
    The GUI (web interface) and building events are way better in HS than HT. Getting device information into the system is better/easier to do and supported better in HT. With the mcsHubitat plugin fo get the device into HS you can get the best of both, that's what I do..

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      #3
      I have kept my Hubitat but not using it right now. That said it is a tweaked TV Box. Gonna take it apart to look inside. My guess is that the Zigbee / ZWave are USB connected inside of the box and not part of the motherboard of the box.

      So here tried an Android based S912 Octocore TV box with 3Gb of RAM and a 64Gb emmc and WiFi and Bluetooth and Gb NIC.

      Replaced the Android OS with Ubuntu 18.04 and Homeseer, HA, Mono, Docker. Worked great and really it is a smaller footprint than the RPi. Total cost for this box was $69 on Amazon last year (on sale). It was easy to utilize ZNet and or USB Zigbee / ZWave sticks on it.

      Next went to an Intel TV box with a base OS of Windows 10. This is using an Intel quad core Atom, 4Gb of RAM and 64Gb eMMC.

      This one added Oracle Virtual box to main build such that it runs Windows 7 and Ubuntu 18.04. It has done well for a few months now. Also paid $69 USD for this box on sale.

      Found pictures over here ==> https://fccid.io/2AHYK-1218C5/Intern...Photos-4139995


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      - Pete

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      Homeseer Zee2 (Lite) - 3.0.0.548 (Linux) - Ubuntu 18.04/W7e - CherryTrail x5-Z8350 BeeLink 4Gb BT3 Pro - Mono 6.12.X
      HS4 Pro - V4.1.11.0 - Ubuntu 20.01/VB W7e 64 bit Intel Kaby Lake CPU - 32Gb - Mono
      6.10.0.104
      HS4 Lite -

      X10, UPB, Zigbee, ZWave and Wifi MQTT automation-Tasmota-Espurna. OmniPro 2, Russound zoned audio, Smartthings hub, Hubitat Hub, and Home Assistant

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        #4
        Originally posted by Pete View Post
        I have kept my Hubitat but not using it right now. That said it is a tweaked TV Box. Gonna take it apart to look inside. My guess is that the Zigbee / ZWave are USB connected inside of the box and not part of the motherboard of the box.

        So here tried an Android based S912 Octocore TV box with 3Gb of RAM and a 64Gb emmc and WiFi and Bluetooth and Gb NIC.

        Replaced the Android OS with Ubuntu 18.04 and Homeseer, HA, Mono, Docker. Worked great and really it is a smaller footprint than the RPi. Total cost for this box was $69 on Amazon last year (on sale). It was easy to utilize ZNet and or USB Zigbee / ZWave sticks on it.

        Next went to an Intel TV box with a base OS of Windows 10. This is using an Intel quad core Atom, 4Gb of RAM and 64Gb eMMC.

        This one added Oracle Virtual box to main build such that it runs Windows 7 and Ubuntu 18.04. It has done well for a few months now. Also paid $69 USD for this box on sale.

        Gonna do a tear down of the Hubitat hub in the next few days here.

        That's cool, keep us posted.

        I'm not focusing on price, but feature driven, development, etc...

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          #5
          I am not yet a Homeseer user as I am still shopping for a home automation platform that suits my needs. I have used Hubitat for a few months and I'm not impressed to say the least. Customer support is non-existent. I've sent three support requests to their support email address, and not one of them has been replied to with anything other than an automated reply. They were surprised when I got irate in their community forum about not receiving a reply to my first email for over a month. Most customers would be irate if they requested support and never got an answer, but they can't seem to grasp that concept. They have developed apps for Android and iOS devices for such functions as presence detection and dashboards, but the presence detection features are unstable and unpredictable at best. Hubitat may be cheaper than homeseer, but if you value your time and your sanity I cannot recommend Hubitat. Customer support is part of the cost of the product. In my opinion, if a company cannot afford to provide adequate customer support for a technically complex product, that product is not worth buying at any price. The fact that Homeseer publishes its phone number on its website is a good indication that the level of customer support is much higher than Hubitat, which has no phone number to be found anywhere on its website.

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            #6
            I started withn Smartthings then hubitat and then homeseer. So far, homeseer has been the most stable by far. My devices work very fast and for the most part, I haven't had too many hiccups. Occassionally, a motion sensor won't trigger but I believe that is because of the motion sensor. I wish I had bought the homeseer brand ones. The ONLY thing that I miss a lot is trying to implement presence detection like I had it in Smartthings using Webcore because I could utilize different locations. I have implemented it somewhat by sending HTTP commands to homeseer but I would like it to be more reliable. Other than that, I am pretty happy with homeseer!

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              #7
              Old thread, but for anyone reading or lands on this during their own research.

              The key take away is reliability! Homeseer has it and Hubitat doesn’t. That’s all you need to know to make your decision.

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                #8
                I would agree. I have been on homeseer for over a year now and it is very reliable. I am very happy with it so far. The only thing that I still have on hubitat is my konnected board.

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                  #9
                  Here have shelved the Habitat and Samsung Smartthings hubs in the last couple of years.
                  - Pete

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                  Homeseer 3 Pro - 3.0.0.548 (Linux) - Ubuntu 18.04/W7e 64 bit Intel Haswell CPU 16Gb- Mono 6.12.X - HSTouch on Intel tabletop tablets
                  Homeseer Zee2 (Lite) - 3.0.0.548 (Linux) - Ubuntu 18.04/W7e - CherryTrail x5-Z8350 BeeLink 4Gb BT3 Pro - Mono 6.12.X
                  HS4 Pro - V4.1.11.0 - Ubuntu 20.01/VB W7e 64 bit Intel Kaby Lake CPU - 32Gb - Mono
                  6.10.0.104
                  HS4 Lite -

                  X10, UPB, Zigbee, ZWave and Wifi MQTT automation-Tasmota-Espurna. OmniPro 2, Russound zoned audio, Smartthings hub, Hubitat Hub, and Home Assistant

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                    #10
                    I agree with what's been said - events and management is much better on HS. However, device support is much better on Hubitat. I have a couple Nuheat thermostats that are wifi connected, and it was straightforward to get them installed on hubitat, but there is no driver support in HS. Likewise no support for Nest devices, but they have support in Hubitat.

                    It seems like the HS staff focus on dealing with platform improvements and bugfixes, but not on writing drivers for popular devices. If it's supported in HS, then that generally is a much better experience, but if there is not device support, it doesn't matter how nice the automation logic is.

                    That's why the HE plugin is so useful - sometimes you can get the bets of both worlds.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by fresnoboy View Post
                      I agree with what's been said - events and management is much better on HS. However, device support is much better on Hubitat. I have a couple Nuheat thermostats that are wifi connected, and it was straightforward to get them installed on hubitat, but there is no driver support in HS. Likewise no support for Nest devices, but they have support in Hubitat.

                      It seems like the HS staff focus on dealing with platform improvements and bugfixes, but not on writing drivers for popular devices. If it's supported in HS, then that generally is a much better experience, but if there is not device support, it doesn't matter how nice the automation logic is.

                      That's why the HE plugin is so useful - sometimes you can get the bets of both worlds.
                      I agree with this partially. Depending on what devices you get. Some of what Hubitat supports and has drivers for are crap decices too. Iris v1 for instance...

                      I support homeseer all the way and hope to see my support for devices too.

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