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    #31
    For the Pros, there are also the Hasman DIN Rail Zwave controller modules : https://youtu.be/qqpTbJekUWg



    Eman.
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      #32
      Originally posted by Kdiamond View Post



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      A word of caution here

      With wifi on these devices consumes between 80-180mA and up to 400mA when sending out bursts.
      If you want to used them constantly connected and updating <1sec then make sure that each have an adequate power supply

      With the 60 devices mentioned that will consume about 40W constantly 24/7 just to keep the lights off. 😉
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        #33
        Originally posted by Eman View Post
        For the Pros, there are also the Hasman DIN Rail Zwave controller modules : https://youtu.be/qqpTbJekUWg
        Eman.
        I wouldn't call anything that uses Z-wave professional. It's unreliable even for home use. Now ordered Tasmoto, Shell and Sonoff. I will see where this road takes me. I have high hopes though.

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          #34
          Originally posted by AshaiRey View Post

          A word of caution here

          With wifi on these devices consumes between 80-180mA and up to 400mA when sending out bursts.
          If you want to used them constantly connected and updating <1sec then make sure that each have an adequate power supply

          With the 60 devices mentioned that will consume about 40W constantly 24/7 just to keep the lights off. 😉
          I have 12 x 2000W heaters. 40W will not make much of a difference

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            #35
            Which Sonoff basic? R2 or R3?
            https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000059190805.html
            preference for R2 .


            I assume this is OpenMQTTgateway. There are 4 to chose from. Which one is the right one?

            How do I connect it to HS?

            Yes.
            The 30pin version
            Flash it with OMG. It will broadcast via MQTT.
            make sure you read the OMG how to.



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              #36
              Originally posted by Pete View Post
              Which Sonoff basic? R2 or R3?
              It doesn't matter. For temperature sensors you only need to utilize 1 GPIO pin, VCC and ground pin.
              What are other benefits of one VS other. Maybe I can use it for something else later on. I

              Originally posted by Pete View Post
              Which Sonoff basic? R2 or R3?
              Just watched a You Tube video on how to cut the high voltage AC section of a Sonoff Basic R2 to make it work with 5VDC.
              would it be better to buy R2 instead of R3?

              Thank you


              Br,
              Dali

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                #37
                Here is the difference between Sonoff basic R2 and R3. R3 is updated version.

                https://oneguyoneblog.com/2019/12/13...-smart-switch/

                Br,
                Dali

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                  #38
                  I got into Z-Wave when it was all the rage and most of my devices are Z-Wave. The Z-Wave+ ones really work well and are reliable. The problem with Z-Wave is that the little logo printed on the device costs you about 75% of the price of the device. Then too, the certification of Z-Wave devices is a bit of eye candy that means very little in terms of defining the capabilities of the device. So considering cost and effectiveness, I'm moving to Wi-Fi and Zigbee. Z-Wave won't go away anytime soon; you can still buy UPB devices!

                  I will add that Z-Wave might be seeing the writing on the wall. I just bought a Z-Wave dimmer plug for less than $30. That's less than half of what they were a year ago.

                  I wish there was a better answer to the loss of events when the HS server is offline. Most of my issues surrounding that are power utility related and ISP related. To that end, I have a UPS and router. The router plugs into the modem and my "internal network" keeps on keeping on even when the ISP decides to down their network for [whatever excuse].

                  If your device is battery powered, it probably should be Zigbee.
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                    #39
                    Thank you Dali.

                    Relating to WAPs here have gone from DD-WRT to OpenWRT to Ubiquiti to Ruckus most recently.

                    The Ruckus AP can be configured with multiple SSIDs using one or the two radios, automeshing, VLANs, et al.


                    I still tinker here with OpenWRT devices and configuring a little bit of automation on these.

                    While testing Ring wireless (ZWave) closed system I have been able to utilize a Ring to MQTT application which allows me to monitor and manage the alarm system via a Homeseer or Home Assistant. I am OK with having to deal with batteries but still prefer wired sensors but these are a PITA to have to wire.
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                      #40
                      Final tip on the Shellies: https://github.com/yaourdt/mgos-to-tasmota

                      By far the most easiest way to convert them to Tasmota. Power the device, connect WiFi, set the WiFi parameters, and then convert!
                      stefxx

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                        #41
                        What are other benefits of one VS other. Maybe I can use it for something else later on. I
                        https://youtu.be/A-WcIz47Lco

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                          #42
                          Here went from using Tasmota to Espurna and now back to Tasmota. I really like both of these firmwares. They each have their benefits and nuances. I like the static IP configuration and the MQTT line items provided to configure reception of MQTT stuff on the Espurna. I am liking the templates / scripting interface on the newest Tasmota firmware.
                          - Pete

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                            #43
                            Code:
                            HS can catch up missed events. But there is not a system in the world that can handle a events send to it when not operational.
                            Absolutely, I would like to avoid devices with event triggering and replace then with device with full time connection and periodically (<1sec) reporting the state/values. That would eliminate missed events as all values and stetes will be restored the moment host restarts, for example.
                            I use UPB for lighting control, and when HS is restarted, the plugin repolls all devices. I cannot remember when I was aware of a device having a different status than HS represented.
                            tenholde

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by tenholde View Post
                              I use UPB for lighting control, and when HS is restarted, the plugin repolls all devices. I cannot remember when I was aware of a device having a different status than HS represented.
                              For Tasmota, a single "cmnd/tasmotas/status" with payload "0" will instantly sync device status with HS4.
                              stefxx

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