Event with multiple "AND IF"

[Toest]

Hi everybody
I am pretty new to HomeSeer, but have managed to install my system (HomeSeer 4) with JowiHue and multiple devices. I now want to create an event:

When the motion sensor see motion after 9PM and before sunrise it should turn on the lights in the living room at 40% and after 20 seconds turn off the lights again...

But I can't seem to get it to work... it works fine before I insert the two AND IF sentences, but after I insert them, the event doesn't work.

Can anybody say what I am doing wrong? I have been around this forum and on Google to see if I misunderstand the AND IF and the OR IF... but still no luck :-/

[AllHailJ]

If you change the second and if to just after 21:00 Does the event trigger properly? If yes then this will probably require two events.

[jmaddox]

Events do not currently span midnight. I would expect that event to work between 2100 and 2359.

I say currently because it was announced in the HS4 roadmap they will have time frames that span across midnight; that's just not implemented yet.

[randy]

Jonny has the correct answer. HS has the day begin and end at midnight, so a time can never be before sunrise, but after 21:00, because after 21:00 ends at midnight. The only native Condition that can cross midnight is “Nighttime”.

Read here for further explanation. You can duplicate your Trigger and first Condition then two separate Time conditions. The example I used in the linked post is:

IF Trigger
AND IF The time is after 11:00PM

OR IF Trigger
AND IF The time is before 3:00AM

Another good solution is the Easy Trigger plug-in, which provides schedules that can easily span two days crossing midnight.

[Toest]

Jonny has the correct answer. HS has the day begin and end at midnight, so a time can never be before sunrise, but after 21:00, because after 21:00 ends at midnight. The only native Condition that can cross midnight is “Nighttime”.

Read here for further explanation. You can duplicate your Trigger and first Condition then two separate Time conditions. The example I used in the linked post is:

IF Trigger
AND IF The time is after 11:00PM

OR IF Trigger
AND IF The time is before 3:00AM

Another good solution is the Easy Trigger plug-in, which provides schedules that can easily span two days crossing midnight.

Hi guys
Thank you - it almost work as I want it to. But I would like for it to stop if the light is already in in the living room.

This is what I inserted so far.
IF
motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF
The time is after 21:00
OR IF
motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF
The time is before 07:00

THEN
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 40%
Wait 5 Seconds
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 100%
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to Off

Every time I add another AND IF to each of the IF and OR IF i halts - I would have thought that an AND IF the light is on in the living room THEN, would do the trick?

[Kevb]

I think you want the additional AND IF to be AND IF the light is OFF, then turn the light on

[randy]

Hi guys
Thank you - it almost work as I want it to. But I would like for it to stop if the light is already in in the living room.

This is what I inserted so far.
IF
motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF
The time is after 21:00
OR IF
motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF
The time is before 07:00

THEN
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 40%
Wait 5 Seconds
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 100%
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to Off

Every time I add another AND IF to each of the IF and OR IF i halts - I would have thought that an AND IF the light is on in the living room THEN, would do the trick?

IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF The time is after 21:00
AND IF the living room light is Off

OR IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF The time is before 07:00
AND IF the living room light is Off


Your actions are confusing. I don’t understand setting it to 40%, waiting 5 seconds and essentially turning the light off. The commands to set it to 100% as well as the next one setting it to Off will be executed at once.

THEN
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 40%
Wait 5 Seconds
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 100%
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to Off

[Toest]

IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF The time is after 21:00
AND IF the living room light is Off

OR IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF The time is before 07:00
AND IF the living room light is Off


Your actions are confusing. I don’t understand setting it to 40%, waiting 5 seconds and essentially turning the light off. The commands to set it to 100% as well as the next one setting it to Off will be executed at once.

THEN
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 40%
Wait 5 Seconds
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 100%
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to Off

I understand that the 5 seconds confuse - I forgot to change it after testing.

what I want to do is. When my kids walk to our bedroom at night. I want the light to turn on with 40% for 3 minutes and afterwards turn the light off.

The reason why it checks if the light is off, is that I don’t want the light to get dimmed if we are in the living room, and the reason why the lights are turned up to 100% right before the light are turned off, is that I want the light to turn on with 100% the next time - even if someone uses the light switch (power off/power on).

But do you know why my two AND IF doesn’t work? Is there a solution?

[randy]

I understand that the 5 seconds confuse - I forgot to change it after testing.

what I want to do is. When my kids walk to our bedroom at night. I want the light to turn on with 40% for 3 minutes and afterwards turn the light off.

The reason why it checks if the light is off, is that I don’t want the light to get dimmed if we are in the living room, and the reason why the lights are turned up to 100% right before the light are turned off, is that I want the light to turn on with 100% the next time - even if someone uses the light switch (power off/power on).

But do you know why my two AND IF doesn’t work? Is there a solution?

The only problem you stated in post #5 above was that the event runs even if the light is Off

Thank you - it almost work as I want it to. But I would like for it to stop if the light is already in in the living room.

I added AND IF the living room is Off to each of the groups to correct that.

IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion trigger with motion
AND IF The time is after 21:00 event will only run between 9:00PM and midnight
AND IF the living room light is Off event will run only if light is off

OR IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF The time is before 07:00 event will only run between midnight and 7:00AM
AND IF the living room light is Off event will run only if light is off

I changed the Wait from 5 seconds to 5 minutes

THEN
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 40% sets light to 40%
Wait 5 minutes
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 100% sets light to 100%
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to Off sets light to Off

[Toest]

The only problem you stated in post #5 above was that the event runs even if the light is Off
I added AND IF the living room is Off to each of the groups to correct that.

IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion trigger with motion
AND IF The time is after 21:00 event will only run between 9:00PM and midnight
AND IF the living room light is Off event will run only if light is off

OR IF motion sensor changes and becomes Motion
AND IF The time is before 07:00 event will only run between midnight and 7:00AM
AND IF the living room light is Off event will run only if light is off

I changed the Wait from 5 seconds to 5 minutes

THEN
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 40% sets light to 40%
Wait 5 minutes
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to 100% sets light to 100%
Set Device: Living Room light On/Off/Dim to Off sets light to Off

First off, thank you for your help!
My problem is, that I tried to add the extra AND IF to each AND IF, but it stops working every time I add the extra AND IF... hmm

[randy]

How about a screenshot of your event?

[Toest]

Here is a screenshot.
as soon as I add the second AND IF sentences, it halts?

just to clarify:
The devices are installed through JowiHue, and the Light I link to is an entire room with 3 lights, but have experimented with choosing only one light, with no changed result :-/

thank you again for your time

[AllHailJ]

If you change the motion and value to off as a group condition you could then write the event as

If Time is After 21:00
And If All the Group Conditions are True

Or If Time is Before Sunrise
And If All the Group Conditions are True

Then Set Device to 40%
Wait X Minutes
Set device to 100%
Set Device to Off

Group Conditons
Light is Off
Motion is Detected

You could also make two events.

[jmaddox]

double check that your living room light device is reporting accurately. Living room light not showing it's status properly could account for the issue. You might also try changing to 'set and not equal to on'

[Toest]

Thanks guys, I will try to change the Event to what you suggest and see what works best :-)

Thank you soo much! Also gave me a bit more insight with Event-ing in HomeSeer :-)

have a great Christmas.
(I will be away from the house for the next couple days, but will test when I come back home) :-)