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  • w.vuyk
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    I am here using the Philips Hue Motion sensors on de Conbee with my plugin and response through that route is instant, they are really fast that way.

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  • TC1
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    Originally posted by auzzzie View Post

    This has me intrigued. So you're saying motion detection etc out of Hue sensors is faster when connected to the HomeSeer/USB Zigbee network vs the hub because it doesn't need to poll it?

    If I was to go that route, does the Hue app still work for control? I assume not since I'm guessing the app connects to the hub?
    Correct, the Hue App talks to the Hue Bridge/Hub, so it only interacts with devices connected to that bridge.

    I've never worked with the Hue sensors so I can't competently comment on responsiveness whether it was connected via the Hue Bridge and Homeseer Hue plugin, or if it could be connected directly to the Nortek Zigbee controller and the HS4 Zigbee plugin. You'd have to ask in this question in the HS4 Zigbee plugin support forum.

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  • auzzzie
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    Originally posted by TC1 View Post

    that is correct. Have Hue bulbs and the Hue bridge/hub, but the only thing I use Hue Bridge for is to do firmware updates on the Hue bulbs (Philips has locked down this process).

    By combining my Hue Bulbs and Aqara sensors on the same network using the ConBee2 hardware controller, it allows the Hue Bulbs to act as repeaters/routers for the battery sensors.

    Another technical disadvantage of using the Philips Hue bridge is that it has to be polled, which is slower than using JowiHue and the ConBee2 for your zigbee control.
    This has me intrigued. So you're saying motion detection etc out of Hue sensors is faster when connected to the HomeSeer/USB Zigbee network vs the hub because it doesn't need to poll it?

    If I was to go that route, does the Hue app still work for control? I assume not since I'm guessing the app connects to the hub?

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  • dmcentire
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    My two cents:

    FYI I bought one of these when they were SmartThings and it's the best and most reliable motion detector I've ever. Unfortunately, they stopped making them but eventually Aeotec picked them up and they became available TODAY on AZ:

    https://www.amazon.com/Aeotec-SmartT.../dp/B095TZTGNB

    These are ZIGBEE and will require a zigbee controller. I use the Nortek zwave/zigbee controller myself with my HS4 system.

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  • Michael McSharry
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    I suspect the1981 "Microwave-named" technology is different than what is used today. I tried some "Radar-named" sensors about 15 years ago that were marketed for presence detection alarms. I interfaced it by replacing the speaker with a X10 window-door sensor. They were totally different technology than what I am using now.

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  • upstatemike
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    Originally posted by Michael McSharry View Post

    I really like the radar motion sensors and do not see why they have not become more popular. Cheap and great for detecting things made up of water (people) that reflect the microwave. You will seem many on AliExpress. Searches of US-suppliers of this technology has a pretty sparse hit rate.
    I have a bunch of new Microwave (not combo) sensors sitting on my shelf since about 1981. As I recall they were prone to false alarms and if you had multiple sensors with overlapping coverage you had to be sure each detector is using a different frequency. I wonder if the technology has advanced any since then?

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  • Michael McSharry
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    It mentions dual technology PIR / MW and how it is not that popular.

    That said the combo technology used in a PIR / MW sensor is great stuff.
    I really like the radar motion sensors and do not see why they have not become more popular. Cheap and great for detecting things made up of water (people) that reflect the microwave. You will seem many on AliExpress. Searches of US-suppliers of this technology has a pretty sparse hit rate.

    Section 18.8 of mcsMQTT user manual describes a few of them. The first of these ($7) I use in the room that has a door to the garage that turns on the room light as the room is entered. What is really neat is that it is 360 degrees and penetrates the wall. This means that if I am coming from the garage into the house the light is turned on as I approach the door from the garage side or house side. It is a self-contained unit so no need for something like HS to broker the trigger/action relationship. Of course HS could be connected if desired. This particular unit has dials to adjust sensitivity and ambient light trigger levels.

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  • pcgirl65
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    w.vuyk I am trying to set up the conbee 2 stick. Jowihue sees it and I registered it but it isn't finding any lights or motion sensors. I deleted them from the philips hue app and unplugged the bridge. Do I have to flash the lights on and off or something?

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  • wallee
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    Good experience with the Zwave Neo Coolcams. Cheap, long battery life and fast response.

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  • mulu
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    Don't buy any of the HS motion sensors that plug into a 110V socket. It looks promising but they are completely useless as retriggering takes a long time. The light sensor is also pretty useless as it can't see pretty large RELATIVE light changes at the lower end. I wasted a lot of money on those sensors. In contrast to those HS sensors I have a bunch of "regular" motion sensors that are wired up to our DSC alarm system. They don't have light and other type of sensors like the HS sensor but they are working as expected. They are rock solid.

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  • w.vuyk
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    If you delete the lights through the Hue app, you can switch off the Bridge and add the lights to the Conbee, by using the search for devices function in the bridge maintenance page of the plugin. In the HS4 version of the plugin the plugin should use the existing devices (but this is not yet 100% tested) for the lighs.

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  • pcgirl65
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    Do you mean I can just delete them using the hue app? I don’t see a reset. So if I am deleting everything off the hue app then I can shutdown the hue bridge?

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  • w.vuyk
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    If you use the Philips Hue app (easiest) you can reset the lights and/or sensors through the app - for lights after disconnecting and reconnecting power for the lights. Once you have done this, scan for new devices in the bridge maintenance page (selecting the conbee) and it should find the lights or sensors and connect them to the new gateway.

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  • pcgirl65
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    This is very interesting. How do you get the hues stuff off of the hue bridge and onto the conbee stick? Do you just turn off the hue bridge then?

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  • TC1
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    Originally posted by pcgirl65 View Post
    So it looks like you can have philips hue connect using the conbee 2 USB stick. So you don't need the hub for the hue stuff?
    that is correct. Have Hue bulbs and the Hue bridge/hub, but the only thing I use Hue Bridge for is to do firmware updates on the Hue bulbs (Philips has locked down this process).

    By combining my Hue Bulbs and Aqara sensors on the same network using the ConBee2 hardware controller, it allows the Hue Bulbs to act as repeaters/routers for the battery sensors.

    Another technical disadvantage of using the Philips Hue bridge is that it has to be polled, which is slower than using JowiHue and the ConBee2 for your zigbee control.

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