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  • langenet
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    Ooooh... Nice! Yeah, after looking further into this, I see the button in user guide. Just not sure about the 2 loads. My pump runs on 240 while my heater runs on 120 (gas). Can I do both with this?

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  • rmasonjr
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    Yep, there is local control under the cover. I drilled a hole in my cover for easy access.

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  • avpman
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    Originally posted by langenet View Post
    I like this device and probably should get a bit more current tech with my pool control solution. Too bad there isn't local control with this... I suppose I could use a couple of battery powered switches and listen for the event. Hmm... thinking.
    looks like there is local control. From the manual: "Action button: Used for Heavy Duty Smart Switch Z-Wave network inclusion and exclusion and to manually turn on or off."
    Might get one for the HW heater.

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  • langenet
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    I like this device and probably should get a bit more current tech with my pool control solution. Too bad there isn't local control with this... I suppose I could use a couple of battery powered switches and listen for the event. Hmm... thinking.

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  • rmasonjr
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    It's the Heavy duty Z-Wave switch for indoors & outdoors (aeotec.com)

    It has 2 legs. I used one for the pump and the other is unused since it was used on a booster pump that I no longer use...

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  • langenet
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    When I got my Pentair 3-speed variable pump installed, I thought I had to control the speed individually after power was applied. So I created an Arduino project with 3 relays which I could wire into the pump through the external connector port. However, as I actually turn off the power via an Elk panel by way of X-10 - yes, , I discoverered that the pump will run at the last speed set via the panel. So I never implemented the Arduino solution. I do have a Z-Wave Aeon Labs Multilevel Sensor which is attached to my panel feeding the pool shed panel and with that, I know when the pump is running. If I used all 3 speeds of the pump, I could define at what speed it is running based on load. But, I really don't care as I just run it at one speed for 14 hours during the day.

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  • Wade
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    Originally posted by rmasonjr View Post
    I have a variable speed pump and I display what speed it is running at on my tablet. All you need is to monitor the current wattage using something like this:
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    What device is that? Does it handle two 120V legs? I'd like to look into it. Thanks.

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  • rmasonjr
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    I have a variable speed pump and I display what speed it is running at on my tablet. All you need is to monitor the current wattage using something like this:
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    Anytime the wattage updates, I update a virtual device. From there, I can determine High, Medium, Low just from looking at the history and coming up with a range for each.

    Then to get fancy, I display the reading using Red, Yellow, Green on the HSTouch tablet so I can tell at a glance where it is currently running. I also put the current wattage in parenthesis.

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  • Wade
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    Originally posted by avpman View Post

    Yes, but those relays for the pump motors still connect to a single mains supply. Unless you want to control the pump speeds the unit above will give you what you want. Energy readings will determine pump speed. Here is mine, indicating the pump is running. Ampers, watts, or PF would be in relation to the speed of the pump. Good luck with whatever solution you go with.

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    I agree it would do what I want. It just seems the cost and installation overhead may not make sense against other options but I'll definitely consider it as one of my options. Thanks again.

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  • avpman
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    Originally posted by Wade View Post

    Thanks for the suggestion. My variable speed pump is controlled via 3 sets of contacts connected to 3 external relays (it can also be also controlled at the onboard control panel). So a single on/off switching of main power doesn't help in my case.
    Yes, but those relays for the pump motors still connect to a single mains supply. Unless you want to control the pump speeds the unit above will give you what you want. Energy readings will determine pump speed. Here is mine, indicating the pump is running. Ampers, watts, or PF would be in relation to the speed of the pump. Good luck with whatever solution you go with.

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  • Wade
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    Originally posted by avpman View Post
    I put one of these at my pool pump. I can get energy readings and turn the pump on and off, locally or remotely. It's a quick, uncomplicated solution.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    By the way, pressing the power button also sends z-wave signals to the hub so you can track any manual operation.
    Thanks for the suggestion. My variable speed pump is controlled via 3 sets of contacts connected to 3 external relays (it can also be also controlled at the onboard control panel). So a single on/off switching of main power doesn't help in my case.

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  • avpman
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    I put one of these at my pool pump. I can get energy readings and turn the pump on and off, locally or remotely. It's a quick, uncomplicated solution.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    By the way, pressing the power button also sends z-wave signals to the hub so you can track any manual operation.

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  • Wade
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    Originally posted by TeleFragger View Post

    well partially... I was more thinking like this...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aeotec-Aeon...-/334136661192


    I use one now and you could use it like is pointing too or just use homeseer device and set events based on watts used...

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    This could definitely work. Simple and reasonably priced. Thanks.

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  • TeleFragger
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    Originally posted by Wade View Post

    If you're meaning a whole-house monitoring system, I would love it but due to the main and subpanel configuration that evolved over the life of my house it will be complicated and expensive. I've heard a little about the "smart" systems that claim to determine usage of individual devices/equipment from a single monitoring point at your main service, but I'm skeptical. For now I'm looking for an economical way to just keep tabs on the pump (and actually my pool vac booster pump too).
    well partially... I was more thinking like this...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aeotec-Aeon...-/334136661192


    I use one now and you could use it like is pointing too or just use homeseer device and set events based on watts used...

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  • Guest
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    Plan/components list below fyi:

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    Simple enclosure (style 1-7)
    https://a.aliexpress.com/_ms5fZr0

    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKpft6W

    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mr58LhG

    Triple version
    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNWWUyW

    ​​​​https://a.aliexpress.com/_msN5F6m

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