Matter 1.0 Standard is official.

[scorp508]

I guess we can start asking about someone writing a Matter plug-in once devices start being certified.

Official news, but the page is being a bit unreliable at the moment: https://csa-iot.org/newsroom/matter-arrives/

https://9to5google.com/2022/10/04/ma...certification/

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/4/2...-google-launch

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/04...dard-launches/

[Michael McSharry]

I have no knowledge of details associated with Matter. I did notice that Amazon announced a new set of devices with Matter in mind. It appears Amazon is differentiating themselves with hardware content to support the standard so those that put a wrapper around generic hardware will be left behind.

[Moskus]

I guess we can start asking about someone writing a Matter plug-in once devices start being certified.

If a Matter plugin is not a priority for the HST team, it certainly should be pretty soon.

[vasrc]

Unless they think it doesn't matter ...

[scorp508]

Unless they think it doesn't matter ...

Ohhhhh get out of here with the dad jokes. 😂

[kenm]

Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way but it seems like this could be implemented as a bridge similar to what the homebidge for homekit does for Apple Homekit?

Edit: and like the HomeSeer nodes for Node-RED that use the existing control and status interfaces of HS4.

[TC1]

Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way but it seems like this could be implemented as a bridge similar to what the homebidge for homekit does for Apple Homekit?

This was mentioned by Rich in the past.

[kenm]

This was mentioned by Rich in the past.

OK. Clearly I've been using HomeSeer for too long.

[pistacheL0]

Ohhhhh get out of here with the dad jokes. 😂

What’s the matter?

[wpiman]

Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way but it seems like this could be implemented as a bridge similar to what the homebidge for homekit does for Apple Homekit?

Edit: and like the HomeSeer nodes for Node-RED that use the existing control and status interfaces of HS4.

If it is built into Homebridge, can HS just ride on top of that?

[kenm]

If it is built into Homebridge, can HS just ride on top of that?

I wouldn't think the homebridge developers would want to mix HomeKit and Matter in the same implementation. Really it's the HomeSeer HS4 plugin for Homebridge that provides the connection to HS. In the past, HST seems to have avoided HomeKit support most likely to steer clear of Apple's legal team. The Homebridge guys seem to have avoided legal issues by open sourcing it. Apple released on open source ADK for non-commercial use. HomeSeer is commercial and therefore would have to use the commercial ADK and go through the MFi certification process.

I think Matter has a similar certification process?

[scorp508]

I think Matter has a similar certification process?

They do for devices, but it isn't clear to me yet if the controller (?) side has a similar process. It feels like Matter is more of a common communication API, which potentially isn't a bad thing if it actually works and becomes adopted widely.

[seerbeliever]

Good article on the need to support existing protocols and Matter by bridging. Homeless is the best in the industry at bridging.

[scorp508]

Good article on the need to support existing protocols and Matter by bridging. Homeless is the best in the industry at bridging.

Thank you that was a good article. It clarified a lot of information.

[jvm]

Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way but it seems like this could be implemented as a bridge similar to what the homebidge for homekit does for Apple Homekit?

Edit: and like the HomeSeer nodes for Node-RED that use the existing control and status interfaces of HS4.

Silicon Labs has already said they will be providing the Z-wave / zigbee to Matter bridging solution as part of their Unify SDK. See here: https://www.silabs.com/blog/bridging...matter-network

So it seems the best path would be for Homeseer to implement this bridging solution directly. I think this may also allow HomeSeer to control Matter devices.

There isn't any way to support Matter through something like my HomeBridge-HomeSeer4 plugin unless the entire underpinnings of Homebridge and Hap-NodeJS are rewritten -- I'd expect that to be a multi-year process if anybody undertakes it and even then they would still have to redo the plugin once Homebridge / Hap-NodeJS are done (a redo of the plugin isn't something I'd be undertaking ).

Personally, if Matter can truly deliver on the promises of working smoothly with google home, Alexa, and iOS (I use all 3), I'll have about 50 or so Z-wave switches / dimmers to sell as I'll be replacing a lot of mine!