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    My insteon 2413U just died. I have 15 insteon devices (light switches, door sensors, I/O modules). What is the cheapest way to solve this issue?
    Pay $250+ for a used 2413U, dump insteon entirely (I'm leaning toward this) and go to z-wave or Tuya? Either way is going to cost $.
    Can anyone offer advice?
    Thanx

    #2
    This is really up to you and how much you want to spend. The Tuya route would be the least expensive.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Rupp View Post
      This is really up to you and how much you want to spend. The Tuya route would be the least expensive.
      But - I believe not all Tuya devices allow local control. I prefer local control where I can.

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        #4
        Tasmota ized devices would be better. No cloud at all this way.
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          #5
          I've had good luck with Z-Wave and Zigbee devices. Both require a hub while Tuya and Tasmota use WiFi. I replaced all of my Tuya devices due to lack of local control. Even though some devices are supported for local control, setting up local control was pretty tedious.
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            #6
            The new Dimmers that I am using are Tasmota / Tuya here.

            With Tasmota you have the option of emulating Wemo. These work great with LED lamps and they have an external switch to go to relay mode rather than dimmer mode.

            These are known as Virage dimmers. They are around $20 USD unlabeled on Ebay these days.

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              #7
              PeteDo these come pre-flashed with Tasmota or do they have to be dis-assembled. I've found switches and outlets somewhat difficult to disassemble and re-assemble correctly. I'd gladly pay more for pre-flashed devices.
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                #8
                kenm

                Do these come pre-flashed with Tasmota or do they have to be dis-assembled?

                The switches sold by Virage (Canada) come with a custom Virage Tasmota custom firmware which is easy to replace.

                The unlabeled Ebay switches are cloud enabled that you configure with your smart phone.

                I've found switches and outlets somewhat difficult to disassemble and re-assemble correctly. I'd gladly pay more for pre-flashed devices.

                Yes the Virage sold switches are three times more than the generic ones sold on Ebay.

                Once you have taken one apart, upgraded it and put it back together next one comes easy. Just plastic mostly held together with small screws.

                These are the nicest looking and most functional dimmer (or relay) switches that I have found to date. The Tasmota OS is well documented and has many features.

                I will post a step by step with pictures on the forum here detailing the upgrade of these switches.
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                  #9
                  I had about 10 of ZEN76 zooz z wave switch. So far no issue and not too expensive.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by shennecke

                    Get your 2413U rebuilt with upgraded components. $75 on ebay.


                    https://www.ebay.com/itm/284790289019
                    Would like to do this but I can't find how to order. It mentions a drop down menu. But I can't find it. Can you he, p.

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                      #11
                      I order from the link below.
                      https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/pro...l-switch-zen76

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ken.238 View Post
                        I had about 10 of ZEN76 zooz z wave switch. So far no issue and not too expensive.
                        i have had a few zooz go bad but at $25 each and still toggle style to keep the wife happy... i will keep buying them. just bought 4 more...
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by shennecke
                          There is a drop down menu on the ebay listing under select your model, for the condition of your current unit. If you can't get that to operate just email the seller.
                          Finally figure out that link doesn't show if you're viewing on phone. Got home and tried on computer and got repair ordered-and now it's shipped in for repair,
                          THANX!!!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ken.238 View Post
                            I had about 10 of ZEN76 zooz z wave switch. So far no issue and not too expensive.
                            Think I'll try a few of these to prepare for future issues!
                            THANX

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