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  • stevene
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    Well to be completly accurate he just used a plastic bread bag tied up. I switched to the baggies.


    StevenE

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  • Barry Gordon
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    As an old time electrician, baggies were not around. We used sponges (the big soft kind) trimmed to a ball shape to fit loosely in the conduit

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  • stevene
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    Your Welcome,


    I have been using that method for many many years, I had an old timer electrician show me that when I was working with him while I was in high school.

    That was how he fished his pull chains to pull 200 amp wires through 6 inch conduit.
    he would start with a string and then the chain.

    StevenE

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  • outbackrob
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    That sucks!

    Originally posted by stevene
    ...the way that works best for me to fish a pull wire through is to tie a light string around a sandwich baggie blown up a little smaller than the pipe. And use a Good Wet/Dry vac taped at the other end of the conduit. StevenE
    That is an interesting method. Hadn't tried that yet. Sounds easier than trying to push something through. Hmmmm. Thanks for posting that!

    Rob

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  • stevene
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    I have run enough conduit in my own house and others, the way that works best for me to fish a pull wire through is to tie a light string around a sandwich baggie blown up a little smaller than the pipe. And use a Good Wet/Dry vac taped at the other end of the conduit.


    StevenE

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  • outbackrob
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    Don't Forget The Pull Strings!

    I think someone already mentioned this, but make it a priority! ...and use good quality stuff.

    A good friend of mine built a house and put 1 and 2" conduit EVERYWHERE and even had a lot of it converge into a 4 incher down into his garage. It looked BEAUTIFUL. The one problem was that he forgot to run pull strings through it. Depending on your configuration and how many bends you have, it can be nearly impossible to fish a pull string down through it all. We finally hooked a flexible tube up to a SCUBA tank and "blew" a small ball with a heavy thread attached to it through the system until we got most of the strings run. A few we could never get. ...even with a fish.

    The best I have seen was at new "mansion" built in Austin by some software mogel. He put multiple conduits to each room and each conduit terminated in a wiring "room." Each room and conduit had color coded pull strings. Sweet.

    I live in an old one story place so wiring is a snap.

    Best of luck.

    Rob

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  • Tymon
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    This is not what I need to hear right now.
    I will have nightmares about nails shot through my wiring.

    Point well taken.

    Ty

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  • Michael McSharry
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    How good of an aim do those putting up your siding have? Good chance you will have some nail tips to contend with depending upon the type of siding you are using.

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  • nightwalker
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    Careful about leaving wires hanging out, it's a lot easier to pull wire out of insulation that it is to try and get it out from between the drywall and the joists. A lot of wire gets damaged by drywallers, pinched, cut, nailed or screwed. My opinion is if you know where they are, leave well enough alone, the insulation is good protection from drywallers.

    No offence to you drywallers out there, you know who you are

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  • Tymon
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    So I got home from work today the entire house is insulated.
    What did I learn? Leave the wires in the ceiling hanging down until after the insulation.
    I plan to put in ceiling speakers later so I ran the wire to the spot I needed it and ran it back and forth between 2 rafters and marked it.
    The insulation guys shoved the insulation up and now my wires are on top of the insulation instead of bewteen the insulation and the drywall ceiling.
    bummer.

    Thank goodness for all the pictures I took. Going to go find all my wires and pull them down below the insulation before the drywallers come next week.

    Ty

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  • JeffCharger
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    I guess it could be anything: a light switch, a window frame/door frame, I even put down a tape measure where there wasn't another point.

    Other things you might want to know later are things like:
    - which way the joists run upstairs
    - what's inside the bulkheads
    - where are the cold air vents between floors
    - what's in the box in the closet?

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  • jeep07
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    Point of Reference

    Can you give me an example of what you used as a point of reference? Like the edge of the wall or something?

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  • JeffCharger
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    take pictures, pictures pictures! We have been in our house 20 years and I still take out pictures we took when it was being built to find studs, wiring, vent runs etc. Now with digital pictures I would take an internal picture of every wall, floor and ceiling. Make sure that you have points of reference so that you can measure if necessary. It's nice to know 'approximately' where a wire is, but after you decorate and change things a point of reference will make sure that you don't open a wall 5 inches too far to the left!

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  • jeep07
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    Thanks

    Thanks for your recommendations. I'm kinda worried about the dual gang boxes but atleast I haven't put them everywhere. I think I'm gonna put lots of conduit in and give a best effort to make sure I have it in the hard to reach places like eaves etc. I think I'm gonna go ahead and get Ceiling speaker mounts and install them pre sheetrock. I Could see that being a pain in the future. The walls etc are no problem for repair I've rewired my old houses and patched sheetrock. It just sucks to think that when in a brand new house you have to cut open the walls . Did any of you do anything nifty with the light switches so you can do extra controlls etc? I think the inwall touchscreens are a good way to ensure future control/functionality since they are just PC's and can control about anything through software.

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  • Barry Gordon
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    I built my house 7 years ago and thought I pretty well covered where I would need wires. Oh Well. I did not plan on in wall touchscreens, RFID readers, ...

    The saving grace is that drywall is infinately repairable (unless wall papered) but even then not a big problem.

    learn how to fish wires, get some 4' and 6' fiberglass drills, get some good brass tiolet chain (always drops vertically) and practice drywall repair. Baseboards come off and give acceess to sole plates. Get around cats with a 1/2x 2" slot. With long fiberglass drills you often only need to open the hole for the box.

    Before the drywall goes on, take pictures of each wall to see where there are cats and non standard framing. Keep the pics.

    I am not saying don't prewire, just be ready to pull more stuff later.

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