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    I have had a Slink-e for more than 2 years now.
    I never had a problem running CDJ and switching
    between 3 megaplayers, controlling the receiver
    and a 4x1 Toslink switch.

    However, I was never able to make it work
    with HomeSeer.

    Initially, I was laboring with a Slink-e and an
    expansion module connected via a long cable.
    Then I tried not using the expansion module.
    Then I bought a second Slink-e. All along,
    there was Xantech components thrown in.

    First I learned everything using EZ-Learn.
    Then I tried generating .cde files from codes
    obtained with the JP1 tools. Now I am attempting
    to learn the IR codes directly into HomeSeer
    because I recently read something on this
    board about that being preferable. But I can no
    longer find this thread (Whoever said the
    seach function was greatly improved).

    In any event I am now learning IR commands
    into the Nirvis plugin for Homeseer. While most
    command appear to learn OK only some test
    right. Sometimes, when I get an error on test,
    the same error repeats when I retest a previously
    OK- testing command.

    For exemple, I learn the digits on TV, they test OK.
    I learn volume up. It appears to learn OK. But on
    testing I get a message like "Error: vol is not a
    recognized command for the device XXXX". If
    I then retest a digit command I get the same message
    about "vol".

    The use of "vol" is by itself interesting. When I first
    started on this endless journey, the commands
    were referenced as vol_up and vol_dwn etc.
    So I thought maybe the underscore is illegal
    so I replaced that with an hyphen and finally went with
    no divider at all. Now the commands are referenced as
    volup and voldwn in the cde file. They are called
    vol_up and vol_dwn in the HomeSeer configuration
    window. They appear to learn OK but upon testing
    there is an error message refering to "vol"

    All the above is for a Sony TV.
    With the cable box from Scientic Atlanta, the issue
    is different : nothing learns.

    Can anybody help me make this work so that I can
    enjoy IR automation before I die (Actuarial tables
    and family history suggest that I may not have
    more than 15-20 years left - if I am lucky)

    JCT

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    Jean Claude,

    I don't have a sLinke, but a few questions and some thoughts.

    First what equipment are you trying to control? Particularly, other than the Scientific Atlanta STB what else is causing the problem?

    The Scientific Atlanta STB's use a 58 KHz IR modulation frequency. Perhaps the frequency is set wrong.

    We may well have discussed this before but Barry Gordon's GenIRDB will generate commands for an Ocelot, sLinke, or a Pronto. It has some quirks, but for generating commands, it has always worked well for my Ocelot and IIRC, Barry has a sLinke, so I can't imagine why learning the commands would be superior EXCEPT for the Ocelot's IR recognition feature. I have never had much luck getting it to recognize a generated command. I think that is a problem that may be Ocelot specific.

    As a general rule, I always suggest to people having problems with IR commands to get it working (commands being reliably recognized) using the software that came with it, before adding HomeSeer. I assume EZLearn is the software that drives the sLinke, if you didn't use HomeSeer. Do the commands work Ok or better with EZLearn?

    -Jon

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    • #3
      Jon,

      I didn't realize that you had answered my previous post.

      I was aware of the frequency used by the ScientificAtlanta device. The problem (one of them any way) is that I couldn't get a working ir file and the irtx didn't produce any result at all and didn't even carry the promise of eventually working correctly at some point in the future.

      I couldn't get GenIRDB to create a proper cde file (it actually had a lot of duplicate values created from all different command codes. Anyway, I tried again to learn from an upgrade I made on a JP! remote. I loaded that file in a previously define Slink-e device and finally I was getting *some* kind of results.

      HomeSeer started seeing the command issued by the remote and logging them. It was also logging the commands issued from the web interface. But these remained without effect.

      Then it dawned on me that while the frequency is specified in the file, it must also be set in the Slink-e interface. Allas when I went to edit the device it became first inoperative and then impossible to load.

      What can I do to correct this situation?

      Do I have to redo my IR Config from scratch?

      If so, what files do I need to erase first?

      What is the cause of this problem? Could it reoccur?
      (By the way, I have available slots in the IR config grid, all files are where they are supposed to be)

      And as a skill testing question for the winner, what are the requirement and restrictions in the programming of the Slink-e interface matrix? I was never able to find any information about this.

      And finally, can someone possibly say why this is called Home Automation when it involves so much manual labor?

      JCT



      The log shows commands (successful) originating from the remote and others (unsuccessful) issued from the web interface.


      2004-07-30 15:15:56~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_up at location 375
      2004-07-30 15:15:58~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_down at location 376
      2004-07-30 15:15:59~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_down at location 376
      2004-07-30 15:16:01~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_down at location 376
      2004-07-30 15:16:02~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_down at location 376
      2004-07-30 15:16:03~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_down at location 376
      2004-07-30 15:18:06~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:5 at location 368
      2004-07-30 15:18:08~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:1 at location 364
      2004-07-30 15:18:10~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:0 at location 363
      2004-07-30 15:18:58~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_up at location 375
      2004-07-30 15:19:00~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:channel_down at location 376
      2004-07-30 15:19:10~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:5 at location 368
      2004-07-30 15:19:11~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:1 at location 364
      2004-07-30 15:19:13~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:6 at location 369
      2004-07-30 15:25:56~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:5 at location 368
      2004-07-30 15:25:58~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:1 at location 364
      2004-07-30 15:25:59~!~Slink-e IR~!~IR match for lr-illico:0 at location 363
      (...)

      Then, problem after editing a device.

      2004-07-30 18:03:11~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:03:43~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:04:24~!~Slink-e IR~!~Changing device LR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:04:24~!~Slink-e IR~!~Changing device BR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:04:25~!~Info~!~SLINK-E successfully initialized
      2004-07-30 18:10:45~!~X10 Received~!~ E Off
      2004-07-30 18:10:45~!~X10 Received~!~ E Off
      2004-07-30 18:16:05~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:16:44~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:16:58~!~X10 Received~!~ E Off
      2004-07-30 18:16:58~!~X10 Received~!~ E Off
      2004-07-30 18:16:59~!~Slink-e IR~!~Changing device LR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:17:00~!~Slink-e IR~!~Changing device BR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:17:01~!~Info~!~SLINK-E successfully initialized
      2004-07-30 18:17:21~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:17:22~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:17:23~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:18:23~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:18:25~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:18:26~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:19:07~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:19:18~!~Slink-e IR~!~Changing device LR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:19:19~!~Info~!~SLINK-E successfully initialized
      2004-07-30 18:19:38~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      (....)

      Impossible to get the device loaded even after deleting and recreating it again.

      2004-07-30 18:22:53~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:23:15~!~Slink-e IR~!~Changing device LR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:23:16~!~Info~!~SLINK-E successfully initialized
      2004-07-30 18:23:37~!~Info~!~ Web Server authorized login successful from: 127.0.0.1 User: SogetraNet
      2004-07-30 18:24:31~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:24:33~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:24:34~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: LR-Illico is not a known device name
      2004-07-30 18:33:04~!~CallerID Info~!~PHONE CALL: vendredi 07-30-04; 30 18:33:04; Outside of Area;
      2004-07-30 18:33:05~!~CallerID Error~!~TCP Connect timed out, RemoteHost=192.168
      2004-07-30 18:33:06~!~CallerID Error~!~TCP Connect timed out, RemoteHost=guest2003(192.)
      2004-07-30 18:33:07~!~CallerID Error~!~TCP Connect timed out, RemoteHost=jc-den(192.168)
      2004-07-30 18:36:38~!~Slink-e IR~!~Deleting device LR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:36:39~!~Info~!~SLINK-E successfully initialized
      2004-07-30 18:37:15~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:37:24~!~X10 Received~!~ E Off
      2004-07-30 18:37:25~!~X10 Received~!~ E Off
      2004-07-30 18:37:55~!~Slink-e IR~!~Adding device LR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:37:55~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: Unable to load device file C:\00-IRFiles\ScientificAtlanta-Explorer-Short-Learned.cde.
      2004-07-30 18:38:05~!~Info~!~SLINK-E successfully initialized
      2004-07-30 18:45:22~!~Slink-e IR~!~Debug: Number of Slink-e devices: 2
      2004-07-30 18:45:46~!~Slink-e IR~!~Changing device LR-Illico
      2004-07-30 18:45:46~!~Slink-e IR~!~Error: Unable to load device file C:\00-IRFiles\ScientificAtlanta-Short-Learned.cde.

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