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  • mnsandler
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    a new option for connecting a vista panel to hs

    I wanted to let you know about a new option for connecting the vista panel to homeseer which gives you full control over the panel and status of all zones.

    nutech.com has developed a hardware interface callled the AD2USB (this device acts like a virtual keypad). And I have developed a hs plugin for the device called the ademco Vista Alarm plugin which monitors all your zones and allows you to arm, disarm, etc the panel from hs.

    checkout the new forum on this topic

    http://forums.homeseer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=992

    Thanks

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  • ChrisDunn
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    Support for Vista Security Panels with the Vista ICM

    Hi all,

    Check out this thread: http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=125298

    I've put together a plug-in for HomeSeer that will support the full line of Vista Security Panels when using the Vista ICM that Honeywell came out with last year. The plug-in is in alpha stage right now, but I'm open to have people play around with it.

    Regards,
    Chris

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  • lacoleman
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    That's right. In my case the insurance company's credit is within $20 of the cost of the monitoring...so it's a no-brainer.
    I have not looked into email notification by the monitoring company, but that might be a good option if only as a back-up. Thanks.

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    Another possible option is take the in-direct route. If you have you alarm monitored by a company like NextAlarm, they can send you e-mails in response to many alarm conditions, even arming or disarming. It may be worth the $12/month that it costs to monitor an alarm. (Your insurance company will give you a discount that reduces the cost.)

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  • lacoleman
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    Originally posted by starpr View Post
    Hello!
    I also have a Vista 20P and used the 4300 transformer with the x10 interface for the output. Right now homeseer knows the status of the alarm (away,stay,off,alarm), plus it turns on all the lights and sends an email in case of alarm. The cons are there is a slight time between an alarm and the lights on, plus only limited to only one house code. So I use a house code only to send signals to homeseer and homeseer do the macros, which creates even more delays. If the alarm is activated it will take like five seconds to turn the lights on. If you want bidirectional communication it would be easier to use zones as input(if you have them available). In my case I did not wanted that because that could be a weaklink in a security system.
    Very helpful. Thanks, starpr.

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    Hello!
    I also have a Vista 20P and used the 4300 transformer with the x10 interface for the output. Right now homeseer knows the status of the alarm (away,stay,off,alarm), plus it turns on all the lights and sends an email in case of alarm. The cons are there is a slight time between an alarm and the lights on, plus only limited to only one house code. So I use a house code only to send signals to homeseer and homeseer do the macros, which creates even more delays. If the alarm is activated it will take like five seconds to turn the lights on. If you want bidirectional communication it would be easier to use zones as input(if you have them available). In my case I did not wanted that because that could be a weaklink in a security system.

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  • lacoleman
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    Originally posted by DavidG View Post
    ...I'm using the 1361 transformer.

    David
    Thanks, David, for both posts. This is really helpful. I will look into Navigator.
    Larry

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    1361

    ...I'm using the 1361 transformer.

    David

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    Vista-ICM may bring new HS / 20P interface possibilities

    Somewhat unrelated, but I saw the reference to the vista 20P and thought some may be interested.

    Honeywell (Ademco) is releasing a device in the next few months that may allow more access to the vista security systems. It's called the VISTA-ICM and is intended as a web-based control equivalent to the wall-mounted keypad. It actually connects to the security system using the identical method used for a keypad. It's java based (I think) and enables a vista panel to be controlled from a browser, so maybe there's an opportunity for a plug-in. It is able to send emails based on certain conditions so if JAVA doesn't open the door at least there would be an alternat to X-10 to notify HS of things.

    I'm using a vista 20p to signal homeseer without issue. At least without any issue that I feel is due to the security system. It is prone to the standard x-10 limitations. One tip I will offer is to get a copy of the vista navigator software, or the compass downloader software. Either makes the output setup much easier than doing it via the numeric keypad on the system. Navigator is cleaner for end users.

    David

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  • jackpod
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    I forget exactly what I did but ended up not using the additional taps on the transformer and used a psco5 or something, let me dig, I might still have some notes

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    Its not a big deal. I didn't even know the Ademco had that capability when I bought it. Considering when they were designed and how much they cost, you can't expect a whole lot.

    The 4300 is power transformer that also contains an X-10 trasmitter in it. You have to replace your power transformer, as well as add some wiring, and you get X-10 support on your panel. What you can do with it, is rather limited, however. It can only transmit X-10, not receive it, and you are limited to one house code.

    The Vista 20 is not an automation controller, its an alarm with some X-10 support when you add a 4300.

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  • dslocum
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    I'm following this thread with interest, in that I have and Ademco Vista 20 (cheap builder version).

    I was not able to follow how the discussion got from the Vista to something called the 4300. What is that?

    Can someone clue me in please?

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  • lacoleman
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    Thanks for the heads-up, anogee.
    Sorry you had such a bad experience.

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    I'm not familiar with the 1361. I'm assuming they might have discontinued the 4300? I actually had the problem that I described with two different 4300's. Bought one, it had this problem so I bought a second one, same problem.

    One other "fun" thing you will discover with the 4300. It sends out codes multiple times, at least mine did. For example, if you send an A1 on, in X-10 this is two commands, an "A1" then an "A-On." The Ademco panel will send it as "A1" "A1" "A1" "A-On" "A-On" "A-On" Works fine when you are controlling a vintage 1985 X-10 module. Not so fine when you are controlling HS. It gets even more "fun" when you attempt to send multiple X-10 codes at once. for example, turning on both A-1 and A-3.

    You will see... :-)

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  • lacoleman
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    Originally posted by anogee View Post
    Well, not so fast. First of all, yes, it can use any house code, but only 1, so you can't turn on both a lamp at A1 and a lamp at B1. You get one and only one house code. This is set using *27.

    Second, while its true you can use 16 outputs, remember these are shared with relays, so you only get 16 - how many relay outputs you use.

    Third, keep in mind that most control requires TWO outputs to do what you want. If you want to turn On lamp A1 when zone 1 goes not ready, that's one output. If you also want to turn Off lamp A1 when zone 1 goes secure, that's another output. Believe me, they go fast.

    I, myself, never had great luck with the 4300. It would work for several days, then suddenly just stop. I'd have to cycle power to get it working again for a few more days.
    Yes...but...I plan to use HS for automation, so the 20P merely has to tell HS that the alarm has sounded. I'll let HS handle the lights and all when the alarm sounds. So number of outputs is of no concern.
    Of greater concern is your experience with the 4300. I know that Ademco has now gone to the 1361, maybe because of problems with the 4300. I have the 4300 and will try it. If there is a problem, I will change to the 1361. I would have absolutely no patience with having to recycle the power.

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