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  • completelyhis
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    not an option, then, bummerooski.

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  • Rupp
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    Originally posted by completelyhis View Post
    dumb question #1 - is it an OS, or software that can be installed on top of vista?
    It's an OS.

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  • completelyhis
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    dumb question #1 - is it an OS, or software that can be installed on top of vista?

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  • brothers
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    Windows Home Server is able to automatically "clone" the boot drive because it operates on clusters, not files. "Clone" in this case means maintain current copies of all in-use clusters, such that the disk can be restored to its state as of the last nightly backup (or any one of the last N backups), using a bootable CD included with WHS. The scheme is inherently space- and time-efficient, since it's only copying changed clusters. It also does not copy duplicate clusters, making it especially efficient in multi-PC backup situations.

    WHS has a number of other useful features (it's based on Windows Server 2003), but the backup system is a biggie for me.

    You can buy boxes with WHS pre-installed from HP, or just buy the software from Microsoft.

    - Dennis Brothers

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  • completelyhis
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    i use logmein, not as cool as a vnc, but same idea. the drive i'm referring to is the boot drive, so it is different, i suppose, huh.

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  • Stevech
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    My experience with Acronis 11

    You can clone a non-boot drive without rebooting - but it gets locked while being cloned (of necessity) so the applications and services that might write on that data disk have to be stopped.

    I use VNC to access my always-on PC (runs Sage and HS and many others). Only when things are FUBAR do I have to go to the garage and turn on the dusty old LCD hooked to it and try to find the mouse. With VNC, I have desktop icons - I simply click on the icon and the VNC window to that PC pops up. No login password, blah because the password is in the icon.

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  • completelyhis
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    I guess it would be ok to do the clone manually, forces me to actually look at my HS computer :-)

    next question is - is there any way to clone a drive and leave both drives connected/running? right now I have two drives that are identical installed inside the computer. i do not have a "removable bay" or anything, and would not want to go in and pull the plug on one of them...that equals hassle. it seems to me, though, that every software cloning option i've seen says you need to remove one of the drives (either original or clone) after the cloning process. is that true?

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  • Stevech
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    Originally posted by completelyhis View Post
    Steve,

    I own Acronis Home but there is no way i know of to "clone" automatically. only can schedule backups. how would one go about cloning on a schedule automatically?
    I don't think Acronis can clone automatically. It can image or file-by-file automatically. This is because to clone the boot disk, it must lock the partition, reboot, and run their stand alone program that does the clone.

    IMO, choosing a disk image/cloning product needs to be done very conservatively. I used to use Norton Ghost, but many, many users say Acronis is better, so several years ago I changed. Acronis has never failed me in quite a few emergency needs, and in routine switching among drives that have clone copies. It does automatically reboot, clone and reboot again, but only when told to do so manually.

    I see that they have a new version now "2009". It says it will do the image (or clone?) and then optionally turn off the computer, so you can go to bed while it's doing so.

    I just won't use no-name/shareware disk backup software, nor will I buy on-the-cheap drive hardware. For obvious reasons.

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  • completelyhis
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    what about this?

    http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm

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  • completelyhis
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    Steve,

    I own Acronis Home but there is no way i know of to "clone" automatically. only can schedule backups. how would one go about cloning on a schedule automatically?

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  • brothers
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    I've got an HP MediaSmart server, running Windows Home Server. Every night, in the wee hours, every computer in the house does a backup to the server (there's a client you install on each computer). There's a bootable CD that can be used to restore an exact image of the PC's disk (at the time of the backup, of course). It uses a clever backup strategy, so that if (e.g.) PC A and PC B have identical versions of a given cluster (like the ones making up Office or the OS), only one copy is stored on the server.

    This system has saved my *** twice so far.

    You can accomplish the same thing with Acronis software, but the setup is more complex and (in my experience) requires more monitoring. And on one sadly memorable occasion, Acronis was unable to read a backup it had made (and verified).

    - Dennis Brothers

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  • Stevech
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    I used to use Acronis TruImage to image the partition(s) on my drives.
    For my office PC, I now just clone the drive from one to another every couple of weeks. Drives are cheap. The clone method seems better to me because the target drive is verbatim and bootable whereas the image scheme yields a partition image but you still have to make a bootable drive and roll in that image.

    Plus, now and then, I boot the clone and install some risky software and try it, before doing so on my usual drive.

    Aconis is great.

    I also use low cost SecondCopy to watch selected folders on drives and network share for changes and automatically backup individual important files.

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  • JeffCharger
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    well, I installed the new hard drive, used Acronis TrueImage to clone it - and presto! 30 minutes later I'm up and running with the new drive! What a treat!

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  • TeleFragger
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    at work we have Ghost and drive image... plus we also have altiris that uses rdeploy...

    so ghost will make a .gho
    drive image makes a .img
    altiris rdeploy makes a .img or .exe

    so if you have access to any of them you could image your drive to a server then restore down..
    you can go drive to drive but I always like getting my failed drive to image up and have a backup.....

    or you can use barts pe

    while typing this I just remembered it....

    I have used barts pe to boot up on and ghost my drive image from that computer across a network to another workstation at my house.... then put new drive in and ghost back following the same process....

    barts pe is free.... however you need to build it...
    http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

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  • JeffCharger
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    Thanks Ultra, yes, It's TrueImage. I went and picked up a new hard drive, and it's running now.

    The old hard drive was booting still - so I thought that it was easier to do it now than when it's actually failed.

    (in fact, it did fail to reboot after a power failure. It couldn't find the boot volume. I repaired it, but it still seems to be having problems when I look at Event Mgr, so I thought I had better be a bit proactive!)

    Thanks

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