Bathroom lighting event issue

[Rotech]

Well here it goes, I would like to put in a zwave switch in my visitor bathroom that turns on the ligth when when they enter and then have it turned off after they exit the room. I think this can be achieve by the door opening and then closing or maybe a motion sensor, but what can I do if my visitors take a shower? How can I let HS know that there is still someone in the bathroom taking a shower?

[huggy_d1]

Well here it goes, I would like to put in a zwave switch in my visitor bathroom that turns on the ligth when when they enter and then have it turned off after they exit the room. I think this can be achieve by the door opening and then closing or maybe a motion sensor, but what can I do if my visitors take a shower? How can I let HS know that there is still someone in the bathroom taking a shower?

Sense water flow to the bathroom as that also covers the all the water consumption devices in the facilities. You could also sense humidity increase to turn on the fan, and wait for it to drop close to what it is in another nearby room. There are a few forum threads on the subject.

[pbibm]

Hector

If you use a motion sensor chances are it will keep activating while they are in there. Either
1) program the motion sensor to wait for 5 - 10 minutes before sending the "off" command, or
2) ignore the "offs" altogether and use the delay function of events with the "remove delayed device" feature. Below is one I use for my premise lights and floodlights, it would be similar to this. I trigger this event from one of several motion sensors

Paul

[Wadenut]

I had tried the humidity trick in itself, but ended up with a second motion sensor in the shower as well as the one in the room itself.
So Motion sensor #1, turns on the light. #2 turns on the exhaust fan in the shower. Both must be off to turn off the lights. I still use humidity to turn off the fan.
Note on this: You may have to convince visitors the motion sensor isn't actually a camera.

[nsisman]

Put a cheap X10 motion sensor in the shower above the showerhead on the wall !

I use this one to turn on the shower light and the shower fan and leave the fan running for 10 minutes after no motion.

Works great for me.........double sided tape so no holes to drill.....

[nightwalker]

I use a security contact in the door to sense when any of the bathrooms are in use. it keeps things simple. I don't care what they're doing in there, if the door is closed they get lights and fan and a little music.

[drozwood90]

Well here it goes, I would like to put in a zwave switch in my visitor bathroom that turns on the ligth when when they enter and then have it turned off after they exit the room. I think this can be achieve by the door opening and then closing or maybe a motion sensor, but what can I do if my visitors take a shower? How can I let HS know that there is still someone in the bathroom taking a shower?

I put a motion sensor in the shower in my house. I have HS count 3 triggers. If in 2 minutes, It gets 3 triggers, HS assumes someone is in the shower. The 2 minute counter is reset at each trigger of the motion sensor.

Otherwise, at the end of 5 minutes, the counters are reset. (this case is useful if someone was grabbing something out of the shower)

--Dan

[Rotech]

I use a security contact in the door to sense when any of the bathrooms are in use. it keeps things simple. I don't care what they're doing in there, if the door is closed they get lights and fan and a little music.

But how do you turn the ligth off? How does HS knows when nobody there?

[johnnybwis]

I use a net camera with motion detection...................just kidding.
Actually use x10 motion sensors and they work quite well. I have one pointing out the door that turns the light on if you get near the doorway. That light is set enough to find your way into the bathroom. Once in another sensor brings the light level up to a brighter level. Also have a sensor in the shower that keeps the light on and sets the caller id announcements to a louder level.

[nightwalker]

But how do you turn the ligth off? How does HS knows when nobody there?

When the door is open again. Here we don't close bathroom doors unless there is someone in there.

[Rotech]

When the door is open again. Here we don't close bathroom doors unless there is someone in there.

So you telling me that when you reopen the door to leave, that shuts off the ligth? still dont understand, HS sees a "on" from the ds10, to turn on the ligth, but when you reopen doesn't that give a "on" signal to HS?

[nightwalker]

So you telling me that when you reopen the door to leave, that shuts off the ligth? still dont understand, HS sees a "on" from the ds10, to turn on the ligth, but when you reopen doesn't that give a "on" signal to HS?

I don't use a DS10, I use a dry security contact in the door montiored in one bathroom with UPB in/out module and in the others with the same contact monitored by an unused security zone. So if the door is closed the device shows ON and triggers the event to turn things on. When the door is open the device shows OFF and the event that turns things off is triggered.

[manxam]

I put a motion sensor in the shower in my house. I have HS count 3 triggers. If in 2 minutes, It gets 3 triggers, HS assumes someone is in the shower. The 2 minute counter is reset at each trigger of the motion sensor.

Otherwise, at the end of 5 minutes, the counters are reset. (this case is useful if someone was grabbing something out of the shower)

--Dan

Dan, I assuming you're using a script to do this? If so, would you mind posting it? I'd like to take a look.

Cheers,
M

[Rotech]

I don't use a DS10, I use a dry security contact in the door montiored in one bathroom with UPB in/out module and in the others with the same contact monitored by an unused security zone. So if the door is closed the device shows ON and triggers the event to turn things on. When the door is open the device shows OFF and the event that turns things off is triggered.

But what happens if they leave the door open after they leave? How does it shut off?

[Rotech]

Note on this: You may have to convince visitors the motion sensor isn't actually a camera.

This is very true,that why I wouldn't like to put a motion sensor in the shower.