How exactly do I Control a garage door?

[Duc998]

Ok, so after setting this up (Thanks again James) and using it for a while. I've come across an issue that is kind of a big deal.

1. The Garage Door device works as expected.
2. If the door gets opened or closed via other means (RF garage door opener or button on the wall) the icon on the Garage Door gets updated as one would expect.

The problem is when I activate the Garage Door device the status of the door gets instantly updated to the action that I just initiated. This is alright when going from closed to open but when going from open to closed it is possible to have conflicting door statuses. Like this:

Right now the door is partially open which should show on the Garage Door device as open but it doesn't.

Hi Ironzey,

Did you get this figured out? I'm having the same issue.

[zwolfpack]

by the way, there is no way to jump the pins with a screwdriver (traditional way) because there are no terminals like on the older units. I had to cut a short piece of wire and stick it in the two holes 3 and 4. you can see a picture in the attachment.
Maybe my unit looks totally different that your unit.

Yeah mine looks the same. I shorted it at the wall button, between the two screw terminals on the back.
My model no. is 3062 which has Intellicode as well. Yours says Series 3, while mine doesn't say anything about what series it is. Like I said mine is about 3 years old.
Checking the manual, page 4 does show two different types of wall console. Perhaps this is the difference between the 1200 and 1500. Mine looks to be the "type 1" (gray body, white buttons).

Interesting thing is that the two smaller buttons (lock & light) do communicate digitally. Some time ago I bookmaked this which discusses how this works, though for a different manufacturer.

[randy]

Interesting thought. so you shorted your control button.
so mine is intelligent. but if I short whatever the button itself does... I'll take it apart and look at the insides. so maybe the Arduino or ever the Linear device can short it ahead of the brains in the controller. I'll let you know what I find.
thanks

Any dry contact device will work.

[pacampora]

Interesting thought. so you shorted your control button.
so mine is intelligent. but if I short whatever the button itself does... I'll take it apart and look at the insides. so maybe the Arduino or ever the Linear device can short it ahead of the brains in the controller. I'll let you know what I find.
thanks

[randy]

Well it's not making sense... I disconnected all the wires from any controller. then jumpered the pins 3 and 4 with a short wire. nothing...

I looked at the link you sent. yes Genie does offer a generic button.
my guess is it wont work with my unit (intellicode).
by the way, there is no way to jump the pins with a screwdriver (traditional way) because there are no terminals like on the older units. I had to cut a short piece of wire and stick it in the two holes 3 and 4. you can see a picture in the attachment.
Maybe my unit looks totally different that your unit.

by the was, thanks for your help.

My Craftsman (same as Liftmaster) communicates between the wall button and the opener with data, so you cannot short pins at the opener. I went to the pushbutton in the wall unit and short across the buttons pins to operate the door. I use a pushbutton inside the house (we don't have a door between the house and garage) and an Arduino controlled relay to operate it via HomeSeer.

Your Genie is probably the same.

[pacampora]

Well it's not making sense... I disconnected all the wires from any controller. then jumpered the pins 3 and 4 with a short wire. nothing...

I looked at the link you sent. yes Genie does offer a generic button.
my guess is it wont work with my unit (intellicode).
by the way, there is no way to jump the pins with a screwdriver (traditional way) because there are no terminals like on the older units. I had to cut a short piece of wire and stick it in the two holes 3 and 4. you can see a picture in the attachment.
Maybe my unit looks totally different that your unit.

by the was, thanks for your help.

[zwolfpack]

If you apply a short across the opener control terminals, does the door operate? Thats the traditional way that garage controls work, a make/break, like a doorbell button. Genie sells a "universal wall button", which looks to be just that:
http://www.geniecompany.com/garage-d...aspx#universal

I just tested that mine does work this way, just a screwdriver shorting across the two terminals of the wall control causes the door to open/close.

Were your ohmmeter measurments made with the Linear connected to the opener, or isolated? If the latter, it may be that the lack of change is because the solid-state relay needs an external voltage to operate. However if your opener works per my 1st question, I'd have to suspect a defective GD00Z unit.

[pacampora]

zwolfpack, so I thought you had it for me with the polarity. but that wasn't the fix. it tried polarity both ways. still not working
So on my opener, there are 6 connections:
pins 1 and 2 (STB) - connected to the sensors for the bottom of the door.
pins 2 and 3 (BWC) - connected to my genie control, and the Linear device
pins 5 and 6 (IWC) - nothing. the manual says unused.

I have put a meter on the end of the wires from the GD00z and activated it several times. I get no change at the wires. No AC or DC voltage change, and OL with an ohm meter.
interesting... I would expect it to do something.
so I hear the beeps, see the flashing light, and get no change at the end of the wires.
Maybe I have a defective GD00Z unit?
Does anyone know what the wires should change to for open or close?
is this just a make/break, or a voltage change?

thanks.

[pacampora]

So when I control the device through Homeseer, it does flash and beep. Then Homeseer shows a status of "stopped". I figure since the sensor did not tilt as the door did not move.
So the gd00z gets the command. But it does not make the garage door opener move. At on point I tried to add a "non genie" wall control, and had the same results. I forgot about this, but was quickly reminded when I tried to use the linear device. My guess is the genie controller sends something to the wires other than a make/break connection. Just a guess. Maybe that is the intellicode part that genie offers. Interesting that yours works. I'll look up the specs on both of them and make a comparison.

[zwolfpack]

I have a PowerMax 1200 which works great with the GD00Z. Strange, the 1200 and 1500 appear to be virtually identical except for the 1500 having a more powerful motor. Perhaps Genie changed the design? - I've had mine since 2013.

When you say nothing happens - when the Linear is actived it beeps and flashes, then it activates the opener. Does yours do the beep and flashing thing?

One suggestion, you might try swapping the polarity of the control wires from the GD00Z to the opener.

[pacampora]

Genie Garage door opener... does not work with GD00Z

so I though I was going to do a quick thing and add one of the Linear GD00Z devices to my garage door. Purchase one, hooked it up and nothing happened. I read the brochure and found that the Genie PowerMax 1500 is on their list on known openers that do not work. I assume it is because of Intellicode technology they use. that explains why I cant use a generic push button controller with this opener.
the way I see it, I would have to replace my Garage door opener to get to a z-wave control.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what openers are know to work with the Linear GD00Z, or have any other way to bypass Genies proprietary controllers?
either way, I figure it's gonna cost me money... to get this working.

thanks.
Paul

[mikaluch]

That sounded hard. I plugged in the Insteon Garage Door Control Kit. It pretty much set everything up. Edit: I should probably say Sandler's Insteon plugin set everything up.

Getting the sensor installed was a hassle. There wasn't anywhere convenient that didn't sweep close to something in the motion. I had to build a big shim and put it on the top of the door. I also added this old X10 chime I had laying around. It chimes then there is a 6 second delay before the door moves. So no one gets squished.

[Ironzey]

Ok, so after setting this up (Thanks again James) and using it for a while. I've come across an issue that is kind of a big deal.

1. The Garage Door device works as expected.
2. If the door gets opened or closed via other means (RF garage door opener or button on the wall) the icon on the Garage Door gets updated as one would expect.

The problem is when I activate the Garage Door device the status of the door gets instantly updated to the action that I just initiated. This is alright when going from closed to open but when going from open to closed it is possible to have conflicting door statuses. Like this:

Right now the door is partially open which should show on the Garage Door device as open but it doesn't.


How do I prevent the "Garage door" icon from changing until the "Status of Garage Door Open/Closed" shows the door is actually closed?
This is how I've got the Garage door device setup:


These are the events to control/update status:

P.S. The update to open is just the opposite of the last event.


I've tried:

1. Changing Status-Control to status. No change in behavior. Instead of having open/close the control buttons are now On/OFF. With the Status-Control set this way is there a way to change the button to Open Close?
2. Changing Status-control to both or control. No change in behavior. Control buttons are Open/Close as I want.

Thanks for any help.

[Ironzey]

Thanks James!!!

This works perfectly!

I made a few errors in the way I was thinking about the virtual devices. Also, I think I understand why the Events section is setup the way it is, it sure makes things easier to organize.

Sweet.

[TomTom]

There are now dedicated z wave garage door units. The link you point to is way it was done before, these z wave units.
http://store.homeseer.com/store/Line...ler-P1862.aspx


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