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    Where is attachable water valve controller?

    I seem to recall a water valve controller that you can fit over a ball valve handle. I now see only the new valve which requires cutting and brazing a threaded connector.

    Searching amazon I found a couple different brands but it doesn't look quite like the one recently featured in the HS store.
    Greenfield seems to be most expensive, but there are a couple of other cheaper brands available.

    Anyone have any experience with these units ??

    #2
    I thought it was the Econet one that they used to sell.
    Econet EBV105

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      #3
      They were riddled with problems so HS no longer caries them.
      Originally posted by rprade
      There is no rhyme or reason to the anarchy a defective Z-Wave device can cause

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        #4
        http://www.econetcontrols.com/produc...hutoff-ebv105/
        HS 4.2.8.0: 2134 Devices 1252 Events
        Z-Wave 3.0.10.0: 133 Nodes on one Z-Net

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          #5
          At one point there was some chatter regarding these valves:

          http://www.greenfielddirect.com/auto...curity-valves/

          I was going to purchase one of these but never did. Anyone have any experience with these? They were supposed to be the OEM versions of the ELK valves. I dunno.

          Thoughts?
          HomeSeer 2, HomeSeer 3, Allonis myServer, Amazon Alexa Dots, ELK M1G, ISY 994i, HomeKit, BlueIris, and 6 "4k" Cameras using NVR, and integration between all of these systems. Home Automation since 1980.

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            #6
            Thanks for weighing-in folks. Greenfield looks pretty robust, I'd like to hear more if anyone has experience with them. I'd rather not cut into the main again, I installed open sprinkler and had a friend help sweat the copper lines in the basement. Not a huge deal but a fair bit of work. Also thinking that if something were to go wrong with valve I need a way to somewhat painlessly replace it.

            <link for future ref> Shark bite solderless pipe fittings:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcG3ifHZKjM

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              #7
              Greenfield has a valve that you can attach over the existing manual valve that is already installed in all homes. That is the one I was thinking about.
              HomeSeer 2, HomeSeer 3, Allonis myServer, Amazon Alexa Dots, ELK M1G, ISY 994i, HomeKit, BlueIris, and 6 "4k" Cameras using NVR, and integration between all of these systems. Home Automation since 1980.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Krumpy View Post
                Greenfield has a valve that you can attach over the existing manual valve that is already installed in all homes. That is the one I was thinking about.
                This one: http://www.homecontrols.com/Greenfie...ator-GFASVCOAZ ?
                HS 4.2.8.0: 2134 Devices 1252 Events
                Z-Wave 3.0.10.0: 133 Nodes on one Z-Net

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                  #9
                  Looks like Zipato has one too now: https://www.zipato.com/product/valve-controller
                  HS 4.2.8.0: 2134 Devices 1252 Events
                  Z-Wave 3.0.10.0: 133 Nodes on one Z-Net

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by AttilaHooper View Post
                    Thanks for weighing-in folks. Greenfield looks pretty robust, I'd like to hear more if anyone has experience with them. I'd rather not cut into the main again, I installed open sprinkler and had a friend help sweat the copper lines in the basement. Not a huge deal but a fair bit of work. Also thinking that if something were to go wrong with valve I need a way to somewhat painlessly replace it.

                    <link for future ref> Shark bite solderless pipe fittings:
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcG3ifHZKjM
                    Should be less than an hour by a good plumber, so relatively inexpensive to have someone else do it. Not sure if I would personally trust compression fittings on the main.

                    Cheers
                    Al
                    HS 4.2.8.0: 2134 Devices 1252 Events
                    Z-Wave 3.0.10.0: 133 Nodes on one Z-Net

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sparkman View Post
                      Should be less than an hour by a good plumber, so relatively inexpensive to have someone else do it. Not sure if I would personally trust compression fittings on the main.

                      Cheers
                      Al
                      A shark bite gets stronger the more pressure it's under. It should alao be after the pressure reducer any way. I do this all the time and have been for years.
                      Originally posted by rprade
                      There is no rhyme or reason to the anarchy a defective Z-Wave device can cause

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by AttilaHooper View Post
                        I seem to recall a water valve controller that you can fit over a ball valve handle. I now see only the new valve which requires cutting and brazing a threaded connector.

                        Searching amazon I found a couple different brands but it doesn't look quite like the one recently featured in the HS store.
                        Greenfield seems to be most expensive, but there are a couple of other cheaper brands available.

                        Anyone have any experience with these units ??
                        I use Zooz-Z-Wave-Plus-Gas-Water-Valve-Control-ZAC03 on my washer. They work great
                        Art

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by S-F View Post
                          A shark bite gets stronger the more pressure it's under. It should alao be after the pressure reducer any way. I do this all the time and have been for years.
                          I know, it's not a rational mis-trust, but I've seen them over tightened too many times and PRV's can fail
                          HS 4.2.8.0: 2134 Devices 1252 Events
                          Z-Wave 3.0.10.0: 133 Nodes on one Z-Net

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                            #14
                            I just had a plumber look at our water main valve. . .and unfortunately, because of how it is buried in the wall, it would be a MAJOR project to install the Homeseer Valve. . .was hoping. . .also, the current value has a wheel instead of a lever, so I can't use any of these other types. . .anyone seen one that will turn a wheel handle?

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