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  • Looking for better quality, small, security camera

    I've been using foscam cameras for years, but am tiring of both the large size and questionable build quality, so I'm looking to find something better before I start buying a bunch for my new home.

    I picked up an nestcam to play with. I love it in every respect except for two things: 1) it REQUIRES an internet connection, you cannot connect directly to the camera, only to the Nest service. 2) It does not appear to be possible to easily embed the stream into a web page (ie. into HSTouch).

    I'm looking for something better. My perfect world it would be:

    1. easy to embed
    2. high quality image
    3. a relatively wide angle lens
    4. relatively small
    5. wifi
    6. solid build quality
    7. cloud connectivity a nice-to-have but definitely should NOT be required.
    8. easy alternative mount options (the nest magnet is really cool, though not required)

    I'm willing to pay for a good quality camera. Any suggestions?

    Paul

  • #2
    I too once used all Foscam, but I have seen the light.
    I use Vivotek for everything now.

    Specifically the FE8180 for indoor, and the FE8181V for outdoor.
    Go look at the specs they are fisheye view with on or offboard de-warping.

    EXCELLENT, quality!

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    • #3
      Look like excellent cameras, and would otherwise be perfect for my purposes. Except that I do need wifi capability as I can't get wire to some of my locations...

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      • #4
        Look at Amcrest cameras. I haven't used them with HomeSeer yet, but they're supposed to the higher end version of Foscams, and I believer they're made by the same company. The image quality is absolutely fantastic. Better than anything else I've seen, and they're super feature rich. You can get wired, wiredless, POE, or any other version you want. I have about 15 of them installed at the office and 6 at my house.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jumper4000 View Post
          Look at Amcrest cameras. I haven't used them with HomeSeer yet, but they're supposed to the higher end version of Foscams, and I believer they're made by the same company. The image quality is absolutely fantastic. Better than anything else I've seen, and they're super feature rich. You can get wired, wiredless, POE, or any other version you want. I have about 15 of them installed at the office and 6 at my house.
          These look VERY impressive. I have just started putting cameras in so it's a perfect opportunity for me to try one of these. Thanks!

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          • #6
            I am trying to get into cameras, but I am unclear how you guys integrate them into HS3 and events?
            Do you guys just use it as streaming source for hstouch? or do you trigger events somehow?
            thx.

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            • #7
              My main issue with the Amcrest cameras is the same as one of my Foscam -issues - size. The indoor wireless cameras look (superficially) to be the same footprint as the Foscam cameras, which means big.

              That's one of the things I really like about the Nest Cam, how small it is and easy to mount anywhere. If only I didn't need to use their service in order to view the stream.

              Paul

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              • #8
                I think Vivotek has a wifi model:
                http://www.vivotek.com/ip8336w/#view...list-grid-view

                not sure if the specs meet what you are after.

                good luck.

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                • #9
                  That might meet my needs. I'll look into it more. Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by paul View Post
                    My main issue with the Amcrest cameras is the same as one of my Foscam -issues - size. The indoor wireless cameras look (superficially) to be the same footprint as the Foscam cameras, which means big.

                    That's one of the things I really like about the Nest Cam, how small it is and easy to mount anywhere. If only I didn't need to use their service in order to view the stream.

                    Paul
                    I have some Foscam cameras too and I think the Amcrests are a good 20% to 30% smaller, and their antennas are built-in. However, for the bigger size over Nest, you get pan & tilt, which is important to me. And, they're cheaper AND they work with any cloud service, not just Amcrest's. Overall, these are the best cameras I've ever owned.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jumper4000 View Post
                      I have some Foscam cameras too and I think the Amcrests are a good 20% to 30% smaller, and their antennas are built-in. However, for the bigger size over Nest, you get pan & tilt, which is important to me. And, they're cheaper AND they work with any cloud service, not just Amcrest's. Overall, these are the best cameras I've ever owned.


                      Can you let me know the model Amcrests you like? Thanks


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kevin dickie View Post
                        Can you let me know the model Amcrests you like? Thanks


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                        This has been my favorite - Amcrest IP2M-841, but now they have a newer model that supports dual band wifi. It's called IP3M-941.

                        I have some of their POE and outdoor cameras too. I've been very happy with all of them.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jumper4000 View Post
                          This has been my favorite - Amcrest IP2M-841, but now they have a newer model that supports dual band wifi. It's called IP3M-941.



                          I have some of their POE and outdoor cameras too. I've been very happy with all of them.


                          Thank you very much for the info. Much appreciated.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Amigo View Post
                            I am trying to get into cameras, but I am unclear how you guys integrate them into HS3 and events?
                            Do you guys just use it as streaming source for hstouch? or do you trigger events somehow?
                            thx.
                            All my cameras are controlled by BlueIris. It is a really good security camera software. I use the Blue Iris Plugin for HS3. Either side can trigger events - BI based on camera motion and HS3 based on motion sensors and door sensors.

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                            • #15
                              Been playing here with HD IP cameras over the last few years. First one was three layered boards, next came two layered boards (which i used) and now seeing all in one camera boards around 38mm in diameter. That makes for a small camera footprint these days. These are very module with plug in wireless modules, USB/SD, audio in, RTC, et al.

                              Check out the Axis M3045-V 1080P mini dome. Thinking Axis has a la carte wireless optional stuff.

                              Here utilize Grandstream/Grandstream OS and Zoneminder (Bunto 16.04 64 bit server) these days.
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