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1 | Monitor Indoor Temp if less than 66 degrees and thermostat is NOT HEAT turn thermostat to HEAT |
2 | Monitor Indoor Temp if Greater than 79 degrees and thermostat is NOT COOL turn thermostat to COOL |
3 | Controls the HVAC system through Honeywell thermostat interface |
4 | Monitors Front Door, Sets status, and starts timers when open, by using Elk Alarm System Interface |
5 | Monitors Laundry Room Door to Garage, Sets status, and starts timers when open, by using Elk Alarm System Interface |
6 | Monitors Living Room Patio Door, Sets status, and starts timers when open, by using Elk Alarm System Interface |
7 | Monitors Master Patio Door, Sets status, and starts timers when open, by using Elk Alarm System Interface |
8 | Monitors Garage Side Door, Sets status, and starts timers when open, by using Elk Alarm System Interface |
9 | Gets Weather Forecast and Variables. Sets virtual devices which cause other Events to run. |
10 | Sets OpMode based on Time of day (Morning, Day, Evening, Night - Used in Security Events and announcements) |
11 | Install Zwave Light Dimmer for Entryway Chandelier |
12 | Install Zwave Light Dimmer in Living Room Overhead |
13 | Install Zwave Light Dimmer on Front Porch Lights |
14 | PorchLight comes on 15 minutes before Sunset and goes off 15 mins after sunrise and dims to 50% at 10 pm |
15 | Interfaces with Zwave through Z-Net Controller |
16 | Turn light on Zwave Repeaters to red and on when sunset for nightlights and off when sunrise |
17 | Elk Security System is connected to Home Automation Server - UltraM1G |
18 | Install Zwave Light Dimmer in Hallway |
19 | Install Zwave Light Dimmer in Main Bathroom |
20 | Install Zwave fan control and toilet light switch in Main Bathroom |
21 | Use humidity sensors to control overhead fans in bathrooms |
22 | Monitors South Gate |
23 | Monitors North Gate |
24 | Monitors hallway motion |
25 | Monitors garage door |
26 | Controls garage door using On-Q Plugin |
27 | Monitors outdoor light beams for people approaching house |
28 | Monitors Lightbeams across Master bed for LEDS to illuminate bathroom path in red under counters and bed |
29 | LED Lights in the bathroom sink area come on when motion is detected in the Master Bedroom |
30 | Specific Lights on at dark so no dark house |
31 | Acknowledge buttons throughout the house to acknowledge reminders |
32 | Web Interface from the outside world |
33 | Makes announcements for Kids to go to bed |
34 | Makes announcements to feed the dogs |
35 | Makes announcements for Kids to get up |
36 | Wakeup routine for homeowner |
37 | Use Chair Rail wood in Hallway for LED lights for night time path illumination |
38 | Security lighting around outside of the house |
39 | TV on ceiling to show status in the middle of the night or watch movies in Master Bedroom |
40 | Outside walk lights illuminate the path when visitors present or garage door is open and night time |
41 | Backlight all tv's and monitors |
42 | Change some lights to Blue if about to rain |
43 | Change some lights to Red for tornado Warning |
44 | Change some lights to Green for Freeze Warning |
45 | Carbon Monoxide detector in garage opens the door and sends texts to phones |
46 | Wire all windows to the alarm system |
47 | Turn off or adjust HVAC based on Windows Open or Doors open for a period of time |
48 | Smoke detectors turn on all lights in the house and unlock doors if someone is home for Fire Department Access |
49 | The alarm System turns on lights when tripped because burglars hate light |
50 | Arm alarm when you go to bed automatically |
51 | Illuminate LED indicator lights near doors when alarm is armed so we don’t open the door to let the dog out while armed |
52 | Laundry reminder and speak alerts (When Done) |
53 | Trash cans sensed outside in storage location with garage door magnets |
54 | Announces reminder to take out the trash on evening before trash day if magnetic contacts say they are still in storage location |
55 | Freezer Door closed - Text when open for long time - announced over speech proxy |
56 | Fridge door Monitored and logged for statistics |
57 | Hot water heater leak detection and water turn off |
58 | Washer water leak detector and water turn off by solenoid - announced by speech proxy and texted to cell phones |
59 | US Mail Detection |
60 | Occupancy detection through complicated rules |
61 | Motion sensor in bathrooms to turn on overhead fan for 15 minutes after someone has been in there for a while |
62 | Whole house hot water circulation during waking hours or bathroom motion sensors |
63 | Check lights in house when going to bed - Goodnight event triggered |
64 | Kids night lights (Closet Lights) on at bedtime and Dim at midnight then off later or next morning |
65 | Doorbell snaps a pic and sends it to our phones |
66 | Randomly plays different doorbell sounds based on time of year. - 4th of July, Halloween, graduation, anniversary, wedding song, etc. |
67 | "Who can it be now?" plays when doorbell rings or jetsons theme |
68 | Garage lights come on when laundry room door opened or garage door opened |
69 | Garage lights are white LED Strips on ceiling controlled by wifi controller |
70 | Cell phones sensed so they are not left at home |
71 | Cell phone finder button on touch pads makes them ring |
72 | Geo fencing controls HVAC System setback temperature points |
73 | Temp sensors in every room at ceiling using 1 wire sensors |
74 | Bedroom doors open check to make sure Silena (dog) does not get stuck in bedroom |
75 | Wakeup and goodnight events for lighting, temperature, and status screens on/off |
76 | Indicator LEDS around house for status? Or readout screens like electronic billboards or Touchscreens |
77 | Holiday mode to keep from waking everyone up - uses Speak Proxy to assist with this |
78 | Shut off certain power strips when we leave. No cells need to be charging then anyway (Green Energy) |
79 | Touch screen announcements triggers for - time for dinner, movie, wash your hands, Time for bed, come to table, come to papa's office, etc. |
80 | Announcements to each room or area based on who is asleep etc |
81 | Monitor fridge temperatures |
82 | Kids get points for things they should do stored in DB allows for TV watching |
83 | Touchscreens have seasonal themes on them |
84 | Keys hook to let house know you are home? Two hooks that the key ring shorts together? |
85 | One button turns on all lights on certain area and another one turns all lights off in a common area |
86 | Lights flash in garage or whole house when doorbell is pushed |
87 | When garage door opens, lights come on to light pathway from garage inside house based on a timer for a while |
88 | Landscape lights - have lights come on at sunset brighter, but then dim as night gets darker for energy saving |
89 | Bedtime reading scene for tablets or rooms (Possibly from lighting scene controllers multi tap) |
90 | One touch turn off all lights in house button or event that can be triggered |
91 | At night time ramp lights to 12% or red LEDS when walking a path to bathroom / kitchen etc. |
92 | Turn off closet and bedroom lights each morning when kids leave for school |
93 | If the natural light in the room is less than 50%, lights adjust to 50%. If natural light is less than 40%, lights adjust to 60%, and so on if occupied. |
94 | Whole house music system with keypads in each room |
95 | Stored music on SAN (Storage Array Network) |
96 | Each Music Keypad area has a color for each person to select genre of music |
97 | Music in bathroom turns on when shower lights come on (Configurable per person?) |
98 | Party Playlists with music and lights |
99 | Party for New Years with time announcments and song intros. Countdown to midnight for all zones using Microsoft Mark and Clare as DJ's. |
100 | Google Home voice commands recognition |
101 | Automatically lock house doors when movies start |
102 | Gradually dim lights when movie starts over 7 second time period |
103 | Lights light up 30% when movie pause is pressed |
104 | Movie mode dims lights, drops shades, and turns on audio and tv for viewing - announcements made |
105 | Automate bedroom screens to display who is at front door when doorbell rings |
106 | Front yard light beam broken raises living room lighting to 100 % and back to previous when no trip for 5 minutes |
107 | If wathcing TV put front porch camera image on screen for 15 seconds if motion detected |
108 | Announcements for exterior doors open more than 5 minutes |
109 | Announcements for Gate left open for more than 10 minutes. |
110 | Device Setting that will temporarily disable Door or Gate Open announcements for specified time |
111 | Access security images from anywhere in the world |
112 | Create a “Dog” event, which will temporarily disarm your security system and trigger outdoor lights for the canine’s nighttime sojourns outside |
113 | Program the lights (including in the master shower) to flash three times when an exterior door opens (maybe even doorbell, or front yard light beam break) |
114 | If there’s a security breach, program every light in the house to illuminate to 100%. Simultaneously, the front door automatically locks, the motorized shades open and every TV displays views from all surveillance cameras |
115 | “Mockupancy” scenes – lighting that is automated to make the house appear occupied, when you’re away on a trip |
116 | Are you away, but want to give a guest access to your home? Create temporary access codes for your guests, which they can punch into your home’s smart locks, notifying you of their arrival |
117 | Create personalized entry codes for individual family members. |
118 | Set event to close garage door if left open for certain amount of time, but resets if motion sensed in that time |
119 | Driveway motion sensor that is activated by camera movement |
120 | Auto lock all doors 3 minutes after you leave house if no one home |
121 | Play "You've got mail" through out the house when US Mail is delivered, text message sent, and leds are lit in the house for status updates |
122 | Send text for medication reminders |
123 | Web page to allow setting reminders to be sent to your phone by homeseer, birthdays, filter replacements, time to mow, appointments etc. |
124 | Reminders to change filters and yearly vacuum filter |
125 | Program shades and drapes to open and close automatically based on the position of the sun and home occupancy |
126 | Implement an energy management system that continually monitors the current energy production of your home’s solar panels if so equipped |
127 | Measure your entire home’s energy consumption, circuit by circuit, automatically with your home automation system |
128 | Automate your home’s lights so they are never at full brightness for energy savings (around 90%) |
129 | Set sprinklers and lawn systems to respond automatically to weather conditions |
130 | In a hurry? “Okay Google, time to go.” Flashes the lights in the kids rooms, blasts an annoying fog horn noise, and let’s your family know that it’s time to get your shoes on. Now. |
131 | If you open an outside door at night, turn on exterior lighting |
132 | Alerts when the pet runs away (collar trackers) |
133 | Soak Lawn if House Fire happens to prevent spread of fire. Maybe not if it is freezing. (Great Idea) |
134 | Ceiling Temp sensor in livingroom to circulate heat if outside is below 50 and inside is above 78. Turns off automatically |
135 | Slow wakeup Overhead Lights illumination increases over time for alarm clock in the mornings |
136 | LED lighting strips for Christmas and Halloween etc. automated. Christmas tree lights as well. |
137 | LED lighting on eves of the roof and outlining of the house. Can be used for party events or show support for college football parties. |
138 | 4 Degrees seems to be the best sweet spot for drop back thermostat temperatures |
139 | Bathroom Humidity sensors > 80% fans kick in. Turn on fans if door is shut for more than 3 minutes and keep on for 15 after they leave |
140 | Homeseer Backs itself up each night |
141 | Watches several LED Optocoupler inputs connected to switches using a Weeder Technologies serial interface (Weedtech.com - Digital I/O Modules) |
142 | Interfaces with Outlook calendars |
143 | Monitors outside temperature |
144 | Monitors computer room temperature |
145 | Monitors Attic Temperatures |
146 | Monitors each room temperature |
147 | Controls ceiling fans by these temperatures |
148 | Reads the weather forecast if asked or in the morning during breakfast at the table. Advises if umbrella will be needed today |
149 | Speaks and sends messages to cell phones when there is a weather WARNING for Tornadoes and changes some LED Lights to RED |
150 | Scrapes Weather warnings from NOAA Weather |
151 | Controls draperies |
152 | Uses Mysql database to store information for temps, door status, sprinkler system etc. |
153 | Saves Temperature readings into a database for reference |
154 | Lights come on 15 minutes before sunset and some dim to 50% |
155 | Selected lights come on full at sunset (Front porch for example). |
156 | Sunset is announced throughout the house |
157 | Temperature outside is announced throughout the house at sunset |
158 | Sunset events run to announce doors left unlocked and change security level |
159 | Certain parameters are checked and tested based on security levels |
160 | Good morning and Good night buttons or events change lights throughout the house and check security levels |
161 | Goodnight routine sets bedroom lights at low levels so as not to wakeup the other person |
162 | Each of us has our own goodnight buttons |
163 | System knows when we are in bed because of pressure sensors |
164 | Status screens are placed throughout the house or on pads |
165 | Lights left on during school hours are turned off periodically throughout the day because the kids leave them on |
166 | System knows when we are home or away and sets temperatures and announcements accordingly |
167 | makes announcements for kids to put their finished homework into their backpack (Increased grades by one whole level when I did this) |
168 | makes announcements for kids to go to School and put any dogs away |
169 | Kitchen LED lights come on when motion is sensed there after dark and turn off after 5 minutes of no motion |
170 | A single scene switch turns off all lights for leaving or night time |
171 | A LED zwave switch displays when garage door is open or gates or other things with green indicator on Master closet light switch |
172 | Garage door 3rd button on remote control triggers announcements that get broadcasted over an FM Transmitter to alert us if something is wrong with house or alarm was tripped |
173 | RFID tags are planned |
174 | Key Fobs are planned |
175 | Speakers controlled to make announcements in certain areas - speech proxy |
176 | Speaker on the Front Porch for Welcome announcement - hopefully also lets package stealers know they are being watched as deterrent |
177 | Checks Internet email waiting and announces to occupants that are there |
178 | Whole House Music System on computer (TCP/Ip) |
179 | Setup reminders to change computer filters and CPAP filters and vacuum them out |
180 | Reminder plugin to remind of upcoming birthdays |
181 | Control and monitor electricity for savings on usage |
182 | Get bank balances and put them on secure page each day - integrate with budget to alert if unexpected charges happen |
183 | Display Weather forecast and daily dress requirements |
184 | Show umbrella on display and touchscreens if rain is forecasted |
185 | Integration with Google Calendar and reminders to text to phones |
186 | Add beams in garage for parking and occupancy |
187 | Turn on garage lights when overhead door or laundry door opens |
188 | Red Nightlights in bathroom and kitchen |
189 | Turn on pathways in hallway when garage door opens |
190 | Gradually dim lights for kids at bedtime - maybe play slower music to create calm? Disney does this in the parks… |
191 | Ping phones to know who is home or away |
192 | Christmas and Halloween lighting |
193 | Screen shows temps, lights, occupancy with home layout |
194 | Structured wiring closet in utility closet |
195 | Setup smart charging on bedroom side tables |
196 | Wire mattress for occupancy |
197 | Add scene control to touch pads |
198 | Add outside ventilation to HVAC with filters when cooking causes smoke or Whole house needed to be ventilated. |
199 | Smart timers for general use that can be used for cooking etc. |
200 | Computer monitor and mini computer in kitchen for control of HA or recipes |
201 | Grocery Inventory list for shopping additions and tracking food in pantry using bar code scanner |
202 | Create food menus based on what we have in stock in the pantry. Helps with "Whats for dinner?" |
203 | Record Weight with scales |
204 | Setback Thermostat when house unoccupied |
205 | Shades and Drapes Open depend on sun location |
206 | Fitbits to log when you are awake and amount of sleep for health purposes? |
207 | Add panic button to turn on all lights in house and play siren sounds |
208 | Car interfaces with ODBii interface |
209 | Add router monitoring |
210 | Add ethernet in every room |
211 | Add new wireless bridge extender to house |
212 | Auto water lawn and plants inside and outside |
213 | Auto water pet water bowl |
214 | Generate door codes and alarm codes for guests |
215 | Add babysitter modes (to keep from freaking out babysitter) |
216 | Create Kiosk for family messages and control |
217 | Change light colors when guests arrive (light beams outside) |
218 | Trashcan sensing if not in slot outside - remind to take out dumpsters for pickup |
219 | Alarm Safe Door to keep kids out if you have a safe |
220 | Auto Arm Alarm at night |
221 | Finish Installing Alarm sounder in hallway (Set to alarm 20 seconds sounds before outside to give you a chance to turn it off if tripped by mistake) |
222 | Set Alarm at night in automatic stay mode |
223 | Wire Windows for HVAC Shutoff & Fire alarms |
224 | Ceiling spots in kitchen are at 30% normally and 50% when cooking |
225 | Adjust Garden lights and outdoor pathways |
226 | if kids are littler, RedLight vs Greenlight for kids to get up. Don’t wake us if RED. 4am - 7am, green 7am-9am |
227 | Add timer to not announce garage door if leaving or disabled for a period of time |
228 | Chores Reminder - push-button acknowledgment to stop reminder (or maybe keyfob to track who acked the message?) |
229 | Smart Timers page on HSTouch with preset times to announce time is up! Configurable message to speak/text to cells. |
230 | Alarms that sense smoke, water, and dangerous gasses |
231 | Smart blinds |
232 | Outdoor Front Gaslight control |
233 | One ways Mirror in bathroom that integrates with Home automation using HSTouch |
234 | Whole house ventilation to save energy with outside air based on heat index outside vs inside -- with filters |
235 | Smart table coffee table that integrates with HA system |
236 | Smart table beside bed that inductively charges phone and has HA buttons and indicators built in |
237 | Set color leds in hallway to dim red if not time to get up, then during ok time to get up set to green |
238 | Turn on certain lights throughout house when the garage door is open |
239 | Front door locks when garage door is closed |
240 | All doors lock when alarm system is in away mode |
241 | Doors left open cause certain led accent lights to come on |
242 | Add lightpost light to front porch lights |
243 | Sends Text Msg to Cellphone to let me know it is now "Freezing" (Below31) outside. Reminds to unhook hoses, Facets Drip, Animals inside etc. |
244 | Sets LEDS under Master Bed to colors depending on time of day, White at Sunset and Wakeup Time (06:00), Off at Sunrise, Dark Red when Goodnight Mode. |
245 | Disable Garage Door Open/Close Announcement for 5 minutes if leaving early in the morning so as not to wake up the family. |
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Originally posted by upstatemike View PostBig list! How many of these have you done v.s. thinking about doing?
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Just a quick note to say that if the "LED lighting strips for Christmas..." is outdoor lighting, rethink them and use wired pixels instead. The big holiday lighting display folks will tell you the strips end up breaking in climates which experience variations in temperatures. You mention freezing so I am sure you fall in this category. Feel free to ignore the warning and get strips, but the first time you are climbing a latter with a hot soldering iron and trying to repair a strip LED which is stuck to an aluminum channel heat sink, you will know why it has been made. Yes, there are videos where people say they have been working after 3 years, but there are more instances of people warning against. Just one example: the DrZzs Discord server has a channel for (mostly holiday) LEDs and this is the most repeated item there.
Some of your items could be combined/dependent on others. For instance, we all use gmail and the associated calendars and I have a family calendar we all share. On that we put Holidays and other items. I have the house go into Away mode if we have a Vacation item on the calendar.
I have started using D1 Minis running Tasmota for temperature and light level sensors. There is a sensors build which includes the BMP280 and TSL2561 sensors. I do not have a security system so I also add reed switches to some for the garage and exterior doors as well as windows. These are WiFi so no wiring needed outside the reed switches and power, which is local to the room and simple since the D1 Mini and sensors run off a phone charger so it is mostly or all low voltage depending on how and where you power the charger. I have also seen particle/air quality sensors added to the mix and may add one in my garage (aka The Woodshop).Karl S
HS4Pro on Windows 10
1070 Devices
56 Z-Wave Nodes
104 Events
HSTouch Clients: 3 Android, 1 iOS
Google Home: 3 Mini units, 1 Pair Audios, 2 Displays
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Originally posted by ksum View PostJust a quick note to say that if the "LED lighting strips for Christmas..." is outdoor lighting, rethink them and use wired pixels instead. The big holiday lighting display folks will tell you the strips end up breaking in climates which experience variations in temperatures. You mention freezing so I am sure you fall in this category. Feel free to ignore the warning and get strips, but the first time you are climbing a latter with a hot soldering iron and trying to repair a strip LED which is stuck to an aluminum channel heat sink, you will know why it has been made. Yes, there are videos where people say they have been working after 3 years, but there are more instances of people warning against. Just one example: the DrZzs Discord server has a channel for (mostly holiday) LEDs and this is the most repeated item there.
Some of your items could be combined/dependent on others. For instance, we all use gmail and the associated calendars and I have a family calendar we all share. On that we put Holidays and other items. I have the house go into Away mode if we have a Vacation item on the calendar.
I have started using D1 Minis running Tasmota for temperature and light level sensors. There is a sensors build which includes the BMP280 and TSL2561 sensors. I do not have a security system so I also add reed switches to some for the garage and exterior doors as well as windows. These are WiFi so no wiring needed outside the reed switches and power, which is local to the room and simple since the D1 Mini and sensors run off a phone charger so it is mostly or all low voltage depending on how and where you power the charger. I have also seen particle/air quality sensors added to the mix and may add one in my garage (aka The Woodshop).
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Originally posted by alphatech View PostBravo, excellent, this list will give lot of motivation and ideas. Nice done. Hopefullly more people will join and add to the list.
Sent from my SM-G973U1 using TapatalkGeneral discussion about HomeSeer that does not fall into any other category or are not specific to 1.x or 2.x versions of HomeSeer.A computer's attention span is as long
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Here recently integrated the new wireless doorbell to the Leviton Omni Pro 2 alarm panel. 1/2 of it (doorbell piece) was connected to an Elk 930 / 960 doorbell board and debounce board. Old way for front door monitoring was a wire combo Optex PIR / Camera with the doorbell to the alarm panel.
Installed a 1-Relay WiFi switch next to the alarm panel. In the alarm panel I have a tiny micro router running OpenWRT. There are no wired connections to the hardware PIR on the doorbell. It does send ONVIF messages related to motion. I did build a trigger / event in Homeseer to trigger the relay (connected to one zone on the alarm panel).
Next steps here that I put in place was to expand the OpenWRT OS on the tiny microrouter with Python3 and PAHO-MQTT. There running an if then event in python which recieves the ONVIF motion sensor message and triggers the Tasmota 1-Wire relay WiFi switch which triggers front door motion on the alarm panel.
Wrote about this here:
Hikvision Video Doorbell ONVIF PIR to alarm panel zone
Took the Garage door stuff from wired (still in place) to wireless here using a modified SonOff basic a couple of years back. I compare the triggers / events timing with the wired stuff using Homeseer SAPI / Alexa TTS.
Electronics here have been a hobby since the 1960s. Bult an Allied Stereo reciever back then and a code only 50 watt transmitter and used an old Hammerlaud HQ-150. Built a shack under my parents front porch back then. (66-67?)- Pete
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Check out the stuff the Christmas Lighting Display folks do when you are ready to go that route. The current suggestion is to use J_Channel, drilled for pixels. Here is a video on how to modify the channel, but I suggest a Forestner Bit for nice clean holes. Lots of pictures of them in J-Channel in this displays forum thread. This is all designed for temporary or permanent placement plus ease of replacing problem lights.Karl S
HS4Pro on Windows 10
1070 Devices
56 Z-Wave Nodes
104 Events
HSTouch Clients: 3 Android, 1 iOS
Google Home: 3 Mini units, 1 Pair Audios, 2 Displays
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Originally posted by ksum View PostCheck out the stuff the Christmas Lighting Display folks do when you are ready to go that route. The current suggestion is to use J_Channel, drilled for pixels. Here is a video on how to modify the channel, but I suggest a Forestner Bit for nice clean holes. Lots of pictures of them in J-Channel in this displays forum thread. This is all designed for temporary or permanent placement plus ease of replacing problem lights.
Great list too sdanks ! Nice idea, changing light color for changing weather conditions...very nice.
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Originally posted by alphatech View PostHow would.you accomplish it, I always like to do that.
If the natural light in the room is less than 50%, lights adjust to 50%. If natural light is less than 40%, lights adjust to 60%, and so on if occupied.
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You will sell the house before you will complete this list of items… That at least is my experience…. Good luck - it certainly is a interesting list of items.HomeSeer 2, HomeSeer 3, Allonis myServer, Amazon Alexa Dots, ELK M1G, ISY 994i, HomeKit, BlueIris, and 6 "4k" Cameras using NVR, and integration between all of these systems. Home Automation since 1980.
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Originally posted by Krumpy View PostYou will sell the house before you will complete this list of items… That at least is my experience…. Good luck - it certainly is a interesting list of items.Wade
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