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  • tarbat
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    I don't think the OS can report actual power used by the USB ports. You can see what each device reports as it's maximum current, using the command:
    usb-devices

    homeseer@HomeTrollerZEE ~ $ usb-devices
    <snip>
    T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=02 Dev#= 4 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
    D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
    P: Vendor=0bc7 ProdID=0001 Rev=01.00
    S: Manufacturer=X10 Wireless Technology Inc
    S: Product=USB ActiveHome Interface
    C: #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=2mA
    I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=usbfs

    T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=04 Cnt=03 Dev#= 5 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
    D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
    P: Vendor=148f ProdID=5370 Rev=01.01
    S: Manufacturer=Ralink
    S: Product=802.11 n WLAN
    S: SerialNumber=1.0
    C: #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=450mA
    I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 7 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=rt2800usb

    From this you'll see that my WiFi USB dongle claims to use 450mA maximum, and the CM15 only 2mA. On the B+ Pi you can configure it to provide a maximum of 1.2A in total to the 4 USB ports, although as standard it's configured to only provide 600mA.

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  • Pete
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    Christopher,

    Is there a way to read the power draw in mA on the USB ports using the OS?

    Yeah I have a mini USB hub connected to one port on the microrouter and I can toast bread on it today.

    Thinking most of the higher power draws come from the USB WiFi stick or USB 3G Modem stuff.
    Last edited by Pete; October 9, 2014, 12:25 PM.

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  • tarbat
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    Its also worth considering whether to get a Zee, or buy a Raspberry Pi separately and then buy a licence for HS3-Pi.

    The advantage of buying the Pi and HS3-Pi software separately is that you can get the latest B+ Pi which has 4 USB sockets and much better power management. For me, being able to use 4 USB sockets was a big plus, with CM15, Z-Wave, and WiFi to plug into the Pi. No need for a separate powered USB hub.

    Of course, it's more complicated doing it yourself

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  • Pete
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    Then is that why Rich mentioned something about a 1Gb of?

    Is there an Arm CPU Raspberry Pi like device with this around today that Rich is playing with?

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  • macromark
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    Originally posted by Pete View Post
    I've had no issues playing with the Zee since it I purchased it a while ago.

    I think you should rename the Zee to ZeeLiTe or just HS3-RPi or HS3ZeeLiTe-RPi or HomeSeer3ZeeLiTe4RPi

    Most folks still assume it can run any plugin unless they read the description.

    I was and have run regular HS3 Pro plugins on the Zee remotely connecting to the HS3 Pro box in Linux concurrent with the ZeeLiTe. Works fine.
    The issue with running extra plug-ins on the Zee is RAM.

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  • Pete
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    I've had no issues playing with the Zee since it I purchased it a while ago.

    I think you should rename the Zee to ZeeLiTe or just HS3-RPi or HS3ZeeLiTe-RPi or HomeSeer3ZeeLiTe4RPi

    Most folks still assume it can run any plugin unless they read the description.

    I was and have run regular HS3 Pro plugins on the Zee remotely connecting to the HS3 Pro box in Linux concurrent with the ZeeLiTe. Works fine.

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  • macromark
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    Originally posted by rmasonjr View Post
    Thanks Mark, I was a little taken-back by needing more technical abilities to setup when the opposite is actually true. I've thoroughly enjoyed the Zee in the year I've had it. It is very simple to setup and get it running quickly.
    Rupp is our triage wizard for the helpdesk so he gets to field the tickets as they come in. If I did that myself, I would likely develop a similar perception! Remember that NO ONE submits a ticket when their system is working just fine, so Rupp doesn't get to hear from those folks.

    Plus... as home automation continues to "blow up" in popularity and more and more inexpensive systems continue to be introduced (almost weekly now), a significant number of non-technical users are starting to enter the market... and many of them are gravitating towards the Zee. This factor alone has been increasing our support traffic.

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  • Pete
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    Yah; here got HS3 Pro to run on the Zee using the Rasberry Pi configuration program which I didn't know about.

    But that is me not reading what Rich had written previously about expanding the space on the SD using same utility.

    I did it the long way taking the SD out and doing it with GParted.

    I am not sure if that was what did it though; guessing it was now cuz its working.

    Earlier attempts at running HS3 Pro on the Zee (Rasberry Pi) didn't work; even with the hard float configured OS.

    I think I tried to run HS3 Pro on it when the Linux version was first released. The HS3 Lite version ran on everything Linux that I tried.

    BTW I do not know when my set up changed or if it changed from soft float to hard float.

    I did though always check on updates and did update OS from the beginning of using it.

    Two changes

    1 - Overclocked the Rasberry Pi to 900Mhz from base CPU speed of 700Mhz
    2 - shifted the split in graphics memory giving it 16Mb as I never use a monitor anyways with the Zee.

    I just renamed the Homeseer 3 Zee directory to something else and copied over the Homeseer 3 Pro Linux running directory.

    Do a reboot now loads up HS3 Pro instead of HS3 Lite for Zee.

    BTW Here utilize SSH / WinSCP / xRDP on Wintel for playing with files and concurrently use similiar tools plus GParted on my Ubuntu 14.04 boxes. Sometimes do both using VM windows in either Ubuntu / Wintel; neato stuff you can play with. Well to and another program I use that lets you run Linux programs in x windows via an SSH connection on a wintel box for graphical linux applications stuff.

    None the less; you don't need any graphical interface or GUI to run Homeseer 3 so why bother with it anyways.
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    Last edited by Pete; October 9, 2014, 10:20 AM.

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  • rmasonjr
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    Originally posted by macromark View Post
    To clarify, the Zee runs a variant of HS3. The device mgmt and event features are the same as those shared by our other systems. If you know HS3, you already know how to run a Zee. Setup is pretty simple; just follow the quick-start guide.

    The only additional technical know-how required comes into play if you need to restore the SD card or wish to participate in a beta... then, you'll be using a command line tool (putty).

    Apart from that, don't let Rupp scare you!
    Thanks Mark, I was a little taken-back by needing more technical abilities to setup when the opposite is actually true. I've thoroughly enjoyed the Zee in the year I've had it. It is very simple to setup and get it running quickly.

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  • macromark
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    To clarify, the Zee runs a variant of HS3. The device mgmt and event features are the same as those shared by our other systems. If you know HS3, you already know how to run a Zee. Setup is pretty simple; just follow the quick-start guide.

    The only additional technical know-how required comes into play if you need to restore the SD card or wish to participate in a beta... then, you'll be using a command line tool (putty).

    Apart from that, don't let Rupp scare you!

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  • spud
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    Originally posted by chewie View Post
    I know that some of the plugins can run on the Zee, but you are correct. As of now the Nest plugin only runs on Windows. I am hoping that Spud will port it to the Zee after a while and then I can use it to tie the systems together.
    I will port the Nest plugin to Linux, but right now the HS3 version installed on the Zee is a modified version of the HS3 Linux version in which plugins are dll instead of exe. HST hasn't documented a way to port plugins for this version, so right now no third party plugins can run on the Zee.

    That being said it's possible to install the full HS3 Linux version on the Zee, but it's a bit more technical...

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  • Rupp
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    Originally posted by rmasonjr View Post
    Interesting. When I click on the Zee banner to the right, then click the #1 Home Automation system for 2014, it scored 98% in Ease of Use?
    That's a good score We want to get to 100%

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  • rmasonjr
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    Originally posted by Rupp View Post
    Yea, tell that to the uses that we support via the help desk on a daily bases. For many it is plug and play for others there appears to be a large learning curve.
    Interesting. When I click on the Zee banner to the right, then click the #1 Home Automation system for 2014, it scored 98% in Ease of Use?

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  • Rupp
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    Originally posted by rmasonjr View Post
    Actually, the Zee is plug and play. It is simple to setup and run. No technical abilities required except plugging it in and setting up HS.
    Yea, tell that to the uses that we support via the help desk on a daily bases. For many it is plug and play for others there appears to be a large learning curve.

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  • rmasonjr
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    Originally posted by Rupp View Post
    It should work but the Zee requires a bit more technical ability to get up and running successfully. So only you can answer this part but I would recommend getting one and giving it a go.
    Actually, the Zee is plug and play. It is simple to setup and run. No technical abilities required except plugging it in and setting up HS.

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