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  • Use HSM100 as a repeater

    Hi,

    Has anyone managed to use a HSM100 successfully as a repeater?

    I'm using one HSM100 powered by a DC adapter and am trying to use that one as a repeater for other HSM100 sensors that are too far from the Z-wave USB controller. I have successfully managed to make the powered HSM100 a "Listener" (by using the Always On setting and then remove and add the device back) but it does not seem to work as a repeater, even after repeated "optimise" attempts (and yes I pushed the blue button on the other HSMs). I also have removed and then added back the powered HSM100 but nothing seems to make it behave as a repeater.

    Anyone a clue or is there another way to get an extended range for the HSM100?

    Thanks,
    Jan

  • #2
    The HSM100 has to be powered - see this link: http://board.homeseer.com/showthread...owering+hsm100 after you are running the HSM100 on electric then you will need to update the configuration: Sleep-State to Always On then it will act as a repeater in the nework

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    • #3
      Kaldoon, the OP stated that his were powered by a DC adapter and configured to "Always On".

      Jan, what are you using to determine that the HSMs aren't routing?

      M

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      • #4
        Hi manxam, kaldoon,

        The HSM100 is indeed powered by an adaptor and always-on. From your answers I deduct you have been able to successfully use the HSM100 as a repeater, is that correct?

        The reason why I came to the conclusion it's not working as a repeater is 3-fold:
        - the battery powered HSM sensors that are further away from the Z-troller do not communicate properly with the Z-troller; the plan was to use the HSM-with-adaptor-and-Always-On as the repeater but it seems not to relay the signal from the other sensors
        - in the status field in the Homeseer set-up screen it shows "Listener True" which is good but it does indicate 0 neighbours
        - using Z-Seer the HSM-with-adaptor-and-Always-On does not show any neighbours. I've tried to optimise a number of times and have tried to remove and add the HSM100s but nothing seems to make the HSM-with-adaptor-and-Always-On recognise his neighbours.

        It would be great if you could share your experience on how you got it to work. Thanks very much.

        Kind regards,
        Jan

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        • #5
          I dont have one of these sensors, but I notice in the zwho page that the Z-Wave command class capabilities show whether or not a device is capable of ROUTING. What does the zwho page say about the sensor?
          Attached Files
          HS3Pro Running on a Raspberry Pi3
          64 Z-Wave Nodes, 168 Events, 280 Devices
          UPB modules via OMNI plugin/panel
          Plugins: Z-Wave, BLRF, OMNI, HSTouch, weatherXML, EasyTrigger
          HSTouch Clients: 3 Android, 1 Joggler

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          • #6
            After that option is set, you have to remove it from the network, and then re-add it to the network, and at this point it should be a repeater.
            -Rupp
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            • #7
              Hi,

              Don't get it to work - have removed and added the device back in after setting the "Always On" option. As you can see in the picture there are a few HSM100s configured as Listener but they don't seem to pick up the neighbours. Any clue?

              Thanks,
              Jan
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              • #8
                How old are these HSM100's. If memory serves me correctly there was a firmware upgrade to some older units to enable this functionality.
                -Rupp
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                • #9
                  Some are 18 months old (you can see a few that have App 1.9) but a number of them were purchased recently (they have App 1.12). I've tried both versions but still can't get it to work. So far I have also not heard from anyone that has reported they are actually using the HSM100 as a repeater which makes me wonder. I have noticed that with the 1.12 version I can apparently set additional FW parameters but there is no indication anywhere that would be required or what parameter to set.

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                  • #10
                    Jan, I've yet to attempt this however I'm a little confused by what I'm seeing on your WHOAMI page. All of my BATTERY powered HSM100s show a neighbour status but I notice that none of your do. I would assume the problem originates there.

                    Regarding using these as repeaters, I'm not sure it works exactly as Homeseer would have you believe anyways. I recently purchased some plug in modules to extend my network as I have a couple nodes on the fringe of the network. Despite adding these modules (which have a dozen or so neighbours), I can't FORCE my switches to route through them so they've done nothing to help my network. 2 of them are placed within 5 feet of a wall switch that can BARELY communicate directly with the controller and it won't route through the new modules.

                    I think that adding a secondary/remote controller to your network (and what I may have to do) may be your fix.

                    Having said that, the hsm100 sensors and zwave in general is pissing me off so I may jump ship to UPB. I may have a 2 month old z-troller for sale!

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