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    Strangeness: Timer Times Out...immediately!

    Well, this is something I've never seen before...my timeout is timing out immediately, no matter what I do

    If I turn on my air purifier, I want it to turn off after 15 minutes, so I don't choke on ozone. See fig. 1.
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    This event has worked for years. But now, all of a sudden, if I turn on the air purifier, it turns off immediately. I don't even know how to troubleshoot this!

    Here is the log, with Detailed Insteon logging....
    Jan-26 2:40:20 PM Device Control Device: First Floor Arizona Room Air Purifier to On (100) by/from: CAPI Control Handler
    Jan-26 2:40:20 PM Insteon CAPIControl: Label=On, Value=100, ControlType=Button
    Jan-26 2:40:20 PM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D 86 2E 0A 11 FF to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jan-26 2:40:20 PM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D 86 2E 0A 11 FF 06
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D 86 2E 3D 98 D6 26 11 FF
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Received a Direct ACK from Arizona Room Air Purifier (1D.86.2E): 1D 86 2E 3D 98 D6 26 11 FF
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 1D.86.2E:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:2 New Value:100
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Event Event Trigger "Energy Saving Events Air Purifier Timer"
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Device Control Device: First Floor Arizona Room KPL A - Air Purifier to Off (0)
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon CAPIControl: Label=Off, Value=0, ControlType=Button
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Attempting to get a KPL LED status response from Insteon device 3B.8F.7B
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Sending command 02 62 3B 8F 7B 0A 19 01 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon ..Got NAK from the RF PLM for command
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon ..Retry #1 required. Pausing 250ms for RF PLM to clear...
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Received STX 0x51 (Raw Insteon Rec):8D C6 2E 3D 98 D6 14 11 FF B8 60 72 97 77 F8 08 0E 89 5F 50 00 00 12
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 3B 8F 7B 0A 19 01 06
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):3B 8F 7B 3D 98 D6 2A 02 F0
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Received a Direct ACK from Arizona Room KeyPadLinc (3B.8F.7B): 3B 8F 7B 3D 98 D6 2A 02 F0
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 3B.8F.7B:3. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Checking for keypadlinc button sync on device 3B.8F.7B src index 3, SrcIsSyncTarget=True...
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Sending command 02 62 3B 8F 7B 1A 2E 00 00 09 F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D9 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon SyncResponderDevices called for device code: 3B.8F.7B:3
    Jan-26 2:40:21 PM Insteon Sending sync command 19 to linked responder device: Arizona Room Air Purifier (1D.86.2E)
    Jan-26 2:40:22 PM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 3B 8F 7B 1A 2E 00 00 09 F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D9 06
    Jan-26 2:40:22 PM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):3B 8F 7B 3D 98 D6 2A 2E 00
    Jan-26 2:40:22 PM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D 86 2E 0A 13 00 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jan-26 2:40:22 PM Insteon Received a Direct ACK from Arizona Room KeyPadLinc (3B.8F.7B): 3B 8F 7B 3D 98 D6 2A 2E 00
    Jan-26 2:40:22 PM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D 86 2E 0A 13 00 06
    Jan-26 2:40:22 PM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D 86 2E 3D 98 D6 26 13 00
    Jan-26 2:40:23 PM Insteon Received a Direct ACK from Arizona Room Air Purifier (1D.86.2E): 1D 86 2E 3D 98 D6 26 13 00
    Jan-26 2:40:23 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 1D.86.2E:1. Old status:100 Old Value:100, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Why is it firing right away?


    Jim Speiser
    35-year veteran of Home Automation
    Still don't know squat

    #2
    Your first event action turns it off after 15 minutes, your second one turns it off immediately. Your first action creates a delayed device action, but it does not pause the rest of the event from executing. You don't need the second device action. I would recommend adding an action before your first one to cancel any delayed device actions for that device.
    HS 3.0.0.548: 1990 Devices 1172 Events
    Z-Wave 3.0.1.262: 126 Nodes on one Z-Net

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      #3
      My second action? You mean, turning off the corresponding KeyPadLinc button? But it's been like that for over a year! I thought the second action waited for the first to complete?


      Jim Speiser
      35-year veteran of Home Automation
      Still don't know squat

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        #4
        Actually the actions are for two different Devices. When "First Floor Arizona Air Purifier" turns On it sets up a delayed device action to turn it back Off after 15 minutes. The second Action turns off "First Floor Arizona KPL-A Air Purifier" Off immediately. The log entries verify that is exactly what is happening. I would guess 15 minutes later in the log, the Delayed Action Event will run and turn the "First Floor Arizona Air Purifier" Off.

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          #5
          Originally posted by JimSpy View Post
          My second action? You mean, turning off the corresponding KeyPadLinc button? But it's been like that for over a year! I thought the second action waited for the first to complete?
          No and they never would have been delayed. A delayed Device Action will only delay the one Action. Everything else in the Event will run Immediately. If you want both Actions to be delayed, you either need to put a 15 minute Wait in before both of them and remove the delay on the one Action, or you need to add the delay to the second Action as well.

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            #6
            Hmmmmm.....Okey dokey. (Walks away scratching head, muttering "but I didn't change anything...")


            Jim Speiser
            35-year veteran of Home Automation
            Still don't know squat

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              #7
              If you have "sync linked responder devices" checked for the keypad in the Insteon plugin, then it will turn the Air Purifier off when it turns the button off.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JimSpy View Post
                My second action? You mean, turning off the corresponding KeyPadLinc button? But it's been like that for over a year! I thought the second action waited for the first to complete?
                Sorry, thought they were the same device. No, the second one does not wait the 15 minutes. It gets executed immediately.
                HS 3.0.0.548: 1990 Devices 1172 Events
                Z-Wave 3.0.1.262: 126 Nodes on one Z-Net

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by joegr View Post
                  If you have "sync linked responder devices" checked for the keypad in the Insteon plugin, then it will turn the Air Purifier off when it turns the button off.
                  I do have it checked, although I've never quite understood this function. I think it's supposed to tie the button together with it's target device so that if one turns on so does the other. But I've never been able to get that to work reliably, which is why I have the event do both separately.


                  Jim Speiser
                  35-year veteran of Home Automation
                  Still don't know squat

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