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  • randy
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    Originally posted by facke02 View Post
    Thanks Randy, I suspected this might be the case. I'll add an event for the triple press. Mind if I ask what motion detectors you use?
    We use DSC hardwired PIRs with our security panel. They are tied to HomeSeer devices with Spud's Envisalink plug-in. Z-Wave and many other motion sensors have a motion timeout minimum of a minute or so. The DSC PIRs are almost binary. They will go to no motion the instant they are not detecting motion and back to motion an instant later. This allows us to control the fans with motion. We turn the fans on when the bathroom is occupied, whether or not the lights are turned on. To determine "occupancy" we count the number of times motion is detected within 2 minutes. The fan will not turn on if someone simply walks into the bathroom to get something out of the medicine cabinet, but will turn on if there is continuous motion.

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    This is in addition to our events that turn the fan off.

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    Last edited by randy; September 12, 2016, 05:06 PM.

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  • facke02
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    Originally posted by enigmatheatre View Post
    I may be wrong and I can guess I am as Randy is the Event god in Homeseer but I thought I would have a stab at this.
    You would need a virtual device named Fan run on and the following event.

    If fan turns OFF and Fan run on device is OFF
    Turn fan on(because it has just been switched off)
    Turn Fan run on device ON
    Delay 10m
    Turn fan OFF
    Turn Fan run on device OFF
    This way Homeseer will not switch the fan back on when it turns it off as the virtual device stops this.


    Greig.
    Intertesting idea. I hadn't thought of using a virtual device. An area I have yet to explore. Thanks

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  • enigmatheatre
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    Yep. I thought I missed something. I guess you could also get round this.
    I am thinking of adding this to that's why I am interested.
    Greig.

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  • facke02
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    Originally posted by rprade View Post
    In our household it is easier to train people to be lazy than conciencious.
    Same applies in my household too. They just leave them on for someone else to turn off.
    Last edited by facke02; September 12, 2016, 03:42 PM. Reason: spelling

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  • facke02
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    Originally posted by rprade View Post
    Because a single press also controls the switch, it cannot trigger an event to turn it off afterword. A "key held" scene presents the same problem, leaving you with double or triple press events as your only options.

    We use three different controls for the fans
    1. The fan will turn off 10 minutes after the light is turned off
    2. The fan will turn off 15 minutes after the last motion is detected
    3. The fan will turn off 60 minutes after it is turned on


    We initially only used 1 and 3 until we added motion sensors to the rooms. With the fans turning off 15 minutes after the last motion, the 60 minute timeout is redundant, but I didn't see the harm in leaving the event in place.
    Thanks Randy, I suspected this might be the case. I'll add an event for the triple press. Mind if I ask what motion detectors you use?
    Last edited by randy; September 12, 2016, 05:16 PM. Reason: corrected fan timeout with motion

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  • randy
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    Originally posted by enigmatheatre View Post
    I may be wrong and I can guess I am as Randy is the Event god in Homeseer but I thought I would have a stab at this.
    You would need a virtual device named Fan run on and the following event.

    If fan turns OFF and Fan run on device is OFF
    Turn fan on(because it has just been switched off)
    Turn Fan run on device ON
    Delay 10m
    Turn fan OFF
    Turn Fan run on device OFF
    This way Homeseer will not switch the fan back on when it turns it off as the virtual device stops this.


    Greig.
    That would work if everyone remembers to turn the fan off. It would turn it back on and let it run for 15 minutes.

    It would not turn it off if they forget. In our household it is easier to train people to be lazy than conciencious.
    Last edited by randy; September 12, 2016, 05:14 PM.

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  • enigmatheatre
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    I may be wrong and I can guess I am as Randy is the Event god in Homeseer but I thought I would have a stab at this.
    You would need a virtual device named Fan run on and the following event.

    If fan turns OFF and Fan run on device is OFF
    Turn fan on(because it has just been switched off)
    Turn Fan run on device ON
    Delay 10m
    Turn fan OFF
    Turn Fan run on device OFF
    This way Homeseer will not switch the fan back on when it turns it off as the virtual device stops this.


    Greig.

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  • randy
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    Originally posted by facke02 View Post
    Hi,

    I am new to HomeSeer and Home Automation. I am running HS 3 Standard and I just installed two HS-WS100+ switches on two bathroom exhaust fans.

    What I would like to do is to have the fans run for 15 minutes after they've been swicthed off. I built an event for the switch that will delay for 15 minutes. But I can't seem to get it to work with a single press, the fan just goes off. If I use the pressed twice it works fine. Can I do what I want?

    I've searched but I'm not finding anything that helps.

    Thanks

    Ken
    Because a single press also controls the switch, it cannot trigger an event to turn it off afterward. A "key held" scene presents the same problem, leaving you with double or triple press events as your only options.

    We use three different controls for the fans
    1. The fan will turn off 10 minutes after the light is turned off
    2. The fan will turn off 15 minutes after the last motion is detected
    3. The fan will turn off 60 minutes after it is turned on


    We initially only used 1 and 3 until we added motion sensors to the rooms. With the fans turning off 15 minutes after the last motion, the 60 minute timeout is redundant, but I didn't see the harm in leaving the event in place.
    Last edited by randy; October 6, 2017, 06:14 PM.

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  • facke02
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    Events for bathroom exhaust fans

    Hi,

    I am new to HomeSeer and Home Automation. I am running HS 3 Standard and I just installed two HS-WS100+ switches on two bathroom exhaust fans.

    What I would like to do is to have the fans run for 15 minutes after they've been swicthed off. I built an event for the switch that will delay for 15 minutes. But I can't seem to get it to work with a single press, the fan just goes off. If I use the pressed twice it works fine. Can I do what I want?

    I've searched but I'm not finding anything that helps.

    Thanks

    Ken
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