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  • larrywal32
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    Hi folks - I have a few very senior engineer friends who work for Microsoft on the Windows Update team. Talked to them about the corruption issues here. Their main feedback is that every ISV/app should be receiving an end session command from Windows Update before the PC is rebooted. And it's the ISV responsibility to close file handles, shut itself down, etc...

    I agree - that seems logical to me. Can folks from HomeSeer comment on this? If necessary I can ping them for more technical information as to the specific command HS should be listening for.....

    On a separate note, the folks from Microsoft also heavily commented that using Windows Home SKU for the appliance means disabling WU and policy control is explicitly not supported. I also understand their arguments here. If I didn't have my system connected to MyHS I would care less since the box would be isolated from the external internet, but since I do, staying patched seems like a good idea.

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  • RoChess
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    Originally posted by larrywal32 View Post
    Bought it about 18 months ago - is that something that would warrant a ticket? How would HS have disabled it? Either way, though, wouldn't completing disabling be risky if I have it connected to myhs?
    Windows 1803 and 1903 upgrades would have totally undone any OS tweaks that might have been applied. I've got an extensive REG file to re-apply my favorite tweaks every time that happens.

    Thankfully 1909 will be more a service pack upgrade, so no Windows.old cleanup required.

    You mentioned 18 months, and 1903 came out recently in May 2019, so that explains a lot, but you might even gone through 1803 from April 2018.

    To remain secure you should always remain vigilant and patch, but at the same time a lot of "exploits" require physical access to the system.

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  • RoChess
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    Originally posted by larrywal32 View Post
    could you post more information as to specifically what settings
    I'm using a Gigabyte BRIX with Win10 Pro running HomeSeer without monitor, keyboard, or mouse connected. The HomeTroller info you added afterwards might change things, but then as suggested by others contact HomeSeer.

    Windows can be configured to auto-login via 'netplw' or use: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...oads/autologon

    To get HomeSeer to auto-launch, you can then place shortcut in startup folder, but then you either need to use disable UAC, adjust permissions, or rely on a tool to delay launch.

    I'm relying on the Task Scheduler method myself @ https://youtu.be/n6mmLKPrmXU

    Only difference is that I've also activated the "Run with highest privilege" to avoid UAC issues.

    This launches HomeSeer as a background task without visual feedback that it is running, but you can see it running fine in Task Manager, and it will remain running even if you log the user out, or lock it.


    As for RDP, I didn't do anything special and just activated it. If you want concurrent RDP access then look for awesome tool called RDPWrap on GitHub, but I specifically want to reclaim primary console access so didn't use it.

    Only times I rely on RDP is to apply OS changes, or to manually install HomeSeer plugins/scripts. Custom device images I've made easier on myself by sharing that folder with write permission so on my workstation I can go-to "\\HOMESEER\Z-Wave Device Pics" which links to the corresponding folder inside html\images on HS3.

    To activate basic RDP per Microsoft guide:

    By default, Remote Desktop for Administration is disabled. To enable it, follow these steps:
    1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click System.
    2. Click the Remote tab, click to select the Allow users to connect remotely to your computer check box, and then click OK.

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  • larrywal32
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    Bought it about 18 months ago - is that something that would warrant a ticket? How would HS have disabled it? Either way, though, wouldn't completing disabling be risky if I have it connected to myhs?

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  • Rupp
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    Originally posted by larrywal32 View Post
    Thanks folks. Baudi - setting as a metered network is a good idea.

    RoChess - could you post more information as to specifically what settings you've used for auto start and task scheduler, also how you are using RDP? I have Homeseer starting on startup, although currently Windows blocks startup with a password for logon; still not sure how you're using RDP.

    I'm really confused - if this corruption is clearly so prevalent, how can Homeseer sell their Hometroller appliances without everyone running into this?
    If you have purchased a recent HomeTroller the Windows updates should be disabled as delivered. If this isn't the case you should put in a help desk ticket.

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  • larrywal32
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    Thanks folks. Baudi - setting as a metered network is a good idea.

    RoChess - could you post more information as to specifically what settings you've used for auto start and task scheduler, also how you are using RDP? I have Homeseer starting on startup, although currently Windows blocks startup with a password for logon; still not sure how you're using RDP.

    I'm really confused - if this corruption is clearly so prevalent, how can Homeseer sell their Hometroller appliances without everyone running into this?

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  • Monk
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    Originally posted by larrywal32 View Post
    Thanks folks - so....dumb question. How do I manage the updates manually? I have them paused, but I can't see how to prevent them from installing after 35 days. The Hometroller I have is running Windows Home.

    At the very least, is there a way to get a notification (through Homeseer or otherwise) when it has downloaded an update it needs to install? This thing is running in a closet....I can't believe other people who purchased a Hometroller don't have this problem too...
    You are halfway there by pausing - my idea is to manually perform the updates rather than have it automatically restart itself. PITA to have to manage this way but at least it avoids unexpected reboots.

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  • RoChess
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    Consider adjusting your system to auto-start HomeSeer as well. I'm using the task-scheduler method myself on a headless NUC that I can control remote via RDP if needed. You should always configure your home automation controller to be able to survive power outages or other unexpected conditions. Ideally it auto-notifies you on a restart, so that you can verify that hardware is not drying (SMART errors for storage for example).

    BlackFriday is around the corner, consider investing in a UPS as well for the internet/network equipment, HomeSeer controller and possibly a few LED lights that can turn on to become emergency lights. For full emergency preparedness (went overboard myself after Hurricane Sandy knocked out my power for over 2-weeks) you can also consider these (or alike): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018UQG9O6/ which act as always-charged portable flashlights, nightlights, motion lights, and power-outage lights.

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  • baudi
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    How to Prevent Windows 10 From Automatically Downloading Updates

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  • larrywal32
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    Thanks folks - so....dumb question. How do I manage the updates manually? I have them paused, but I can't see how to prevent them from installing after 35 days. The Hometroller I have is running Windows Home.

    At the very least, is there a way to get a notification (through Homeseer or otherwise) when it has downloaded an update it needs to install? This thing is running in a closet....I can't believe other people who purchased a Hometroller don't have this problem too...

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  • Monk
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    Agree with sparkman and drhtmal. If you think this occurs with the monthly Microsoft updates, manage the updates manually.

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  • drhtmal
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    Originally posted by larrywal32 View Post
    Any update folks? It's happened to me every month for the last four months and just now again today. My wife is ready to kill me. Every month my home automation simply stops working and then I go and find my machine rebooted from a WU and my HS3 with a corrupt configuration file. This is super aggravating.
    Turn off automatic updates.

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  • larrywal32
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    Any update folks? It's happened to me every month for the last four months and just now again today. My wife is ready to kill me. Every month my home automation simply stops working and then I go and find my machine rebooted from a WU and my HS3 with a corrupt configuration file. This is super aggravating.

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  • baudi
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    Originally posted by sparkman View Post
    My HS system now has an SSD and thinking that may have helped with this issue.
    Mine has an SSD too. Still get corruption often, mainly with Insteon config.

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  • sparkman
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    I used to see this occasionally years ago, but have not had a corrupted file in at least 3 years (knock on wood). I had some hard system crashes in the past year due to a hardware driver issue on W7, but the system restarted each time with no issues. I have disabled automatic W7 updates as well. My HS system now has an SSD and thinking that may have helped with this issue.

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