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  • #16
    Originally posted by simplextech View Post

    OR IF is a new Trigger. Something has to change to trigger it not just sit there.
    So this falls back on my original question? How to I group if multiple devices/lights are off?

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    • #17
      Can you describe your use case please? Multiple sensors and multiple lights? What are the triggers? Its not clear what you have and what you want to do.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by logbuilder View Post
        Can you describe your use case please? Multiple sensors and multiple lights? What are the triggers? Its not clear what you have and what you want to do.
        I want to write an event that does the following.

        If Motion Sensor 1 is inactive for 3 mins
        AND IF Motion Sensor 2 is inactive for 3 mins
        And IF Light 1 value is ON
        OR IF Ligh 1 value is ON
        Turn Off Light 1
        Turn Off Light 2

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        • #19
          That last ORIF regarding Ligh 1 confuses me.

          Is this the right logic for what you want to do?


          If motion sensor 1 has not seen motion for 3 minutes and light 1 is ON

          or

          if motion sensor 2 has not seen motion for 3 minutes and light 1 is ON

          then

          turn off light 1
          turn off light 2

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          • #20
            Originally posted by logbuilder View Post
            That last ORIF regarding Ligh 1 confuses me.

            Is this the right logic for what you want to do?


            If motion sensor 1 has not seen motion for 3 minutes and light 1 is ON

            or

            if motion sensor 2 has not seen motion for 3 minutes and light 1 is ON

            then

            turn off light 1
            turn off light 2
            Sorry no.

            I want to make sure both motion sensors haven't been active before turning lights off.

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            • #21
              So I've done this, but the problem is it will just keep running the event over and over....

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              • #22
                Change the first IF to inactive for exactly 3m, 0s

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by logbuilder View Post
                  Change the first IF to inactive for exactly 3m, 0s
                  Thanks.

                  I need to read back into grouping motion sensors.

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                  • #24
                    Try it that way. Adapt for two lights.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by nunoary View Post
                      Try it that way. Adapt for two lights.

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                      Why are you putting in Remove Delayed Device Actions on both? Why not just on the event that is for Motion ?

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                      • #26
                        rprade can explain better, but i think it's because i have one condition in the motion event and this may cause it not to run and the delay will not reset.

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                        • #27
                          Well the solution to group is to use easytrigger groups. Saves a ton of time!

                          now I can group by motion sensors.

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                          • #28
                            I agree, EasyTrigger it's a must have plugin...

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                            • #29
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mik3y View Post

                                Why are you putting in Remove Delayed Device Actions on both? Why not just on the event that is for Motion ?
                                You want to remove the delayed device action(s) in the on event. Because there is a condition in the on event, it may not always run and a delayed device action to turn the device off may remain, despite the fact that there has been motion. Adding the remove delayed device action in the off event will assure the lights do not turn off until 10 minutes after the last motion has ended. It is harmless to have an action to remove a delayed device action when none exists, but it does provide a failsafe to make sure the lights stay on for 10 minutes, in case the condition in the on event is false. I don’t know what the condition is for, so I cannot comment further as the need for the delayed device action removal in the off event is necessary.
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