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  • Pete
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    Great idea Kerat!!!

    Here running Kodi on a bunch of Aopen digital engines and testing 4k stuff with them. Need to update the Kodi boxes.

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  • outbackrob
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    Originally posted by Kerat View Post
    Check out the Asus Vivo series. They have a 7th gen i5. You will need to pickup an OS, RAM, and a small SSD separately).
    That looks like a good option as well. I was looking at a NUC earlier.

    I have everything (even the laptop) on a 1.5Kva UPS as the power blips regularly in my neighborhood.

    Interestingly enough, my HS laptop has died the last two mornings in a row...

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  • outbackrob
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    Originally posted by TeleFragger View Post
    I am using a Lenovo tiny. We use them at work and they are great so it made me jump on google and I found some refurbed and bought 1.. uses like 18w!!!!!

    and is an i5 - ssd - 16gb ram!!!

    $329 i5
    That looks interesting. Not a bad price. I could probably just swap the SSD out of my Lenovo laptop and not have to configure a thing. Is that an antenna port on the back? WiFi?

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  • Kerat
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    HS3 Hardware

    Originally posted by outbackrob View Post
    Thanks. I am still debating on whether to get another laptop or maybe a NUC or similar. The laptop is pretty convenient and takes up little space, but they are not really made to run 24/7 for years.. ...but mine has, and it lasted longer than I thought it would.


    Check out the Asus Vivo series. They have a 7th gen i5. You will need to pickup an OS, RAM, and a small SSD separately).

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WP2RVW3..._R1gpAbFQG0H98

    Remember, you won't need much to run HS3. So you could probably go with the i3 instead and mate it to 4-8GB of RAM and a 128 GB SSD and be screaming. Your choice on Linux or M$ for the OS.

    Here, I am looking at the vivo 7th gen with an Intel i3 series ($260 barebone) with 8GB of RAM and a 128 GB SSD as a replacement legacy core 2 Duo 4GB RAM 128 GB SSD system as the media streamer in my livingroom.

    The only other thing I would note is a good data backup and power backup solution.

    I would recommend clonezilla or acronis and save your backups to a separate HDD.

    If you are going away from the laptop you would be losing the built in battery. I would recommend a backup UPS with integration into your OS so your system gracefully shuts down in the event of a power outage and battery discharge. This would help to ensure that you don't biff your HS3 install (the DB).

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    Last edited by Kerat; December 21st, 2017, 09:43 PM.

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  • TeleFragger
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    Originally posted by outbackrob View Post
    Thanks. I am still debating on whether to get another laptop or maybe a NUC or similar. The laptop is pretty convenient and takes up little space, but they are not really made to run 24/7 for years.. ...but mine has, and it lasted longer than I thought it would.

    how much you looking to spend?
    of course as little as possible but still.. gotta start with a budget price..

    I am using a Lenovo tiny. We use them at work and they are great so it made me jump on google and I found some refurbed and bought 1.. uses like 18w!!!!!

    and is an i5 - ssd - 16gb ram!!!

    $329 i5
    https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkC...inkcentre+tiny

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  • outbackrob
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    Originally posted by Kerat View Post
    ....I think a 7th gen Intel laptop with 4GB or more of RAM would be an easy shoe in for a hardware refresh. .....
    Thanks. I am still debating on whether to get another laptop or maybe a NUC or similar. The laptop is pretty convenient and takes up little space, but they are not really made to run 24/7 for years.. ...but mine has, and it lasted longer than I thought it would.

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  • abwyatt
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    Originally posted by Pete View Post
    So I was thinking of using Wine. Any experience with SAPI on Wine that you can share?

    A couple of years ago I tried getting SAPI to run with Wine and was successful with it. At the time though I could not get speaker dot exe to run. Recently been playing with PlayonLinux and did get my OmniPro PCA program running on it. I did not try SAPI.

    Going to give it another try on my Linux laptop maybe.

    For an Oracle VB you can run a thin / lite XP or use embedded XP. I currently run embedded XP on my Homeseer touchscreens and it works fine with speaker dot exe and a few voice fonts.

    You can build a 4-8 Gb Wintel VB. My current Linux HS3 is using way less than 8 Gb so I do not think you will have a problem with an add of a 32bit lite XP with SAPI.
    Thanks Pete. I'll take this conversation to another more relevant thread as I think it is a bit off topic and I have some more questions.

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  • Pete
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    So I was thinking of using Wine. Any experience with SAPI on Wine that you can share?

    A couple of years ago I tried getting SAPI to run with Wine and was successful with it. At the time though I could not get speaker dot exe to run. Recently been playing with PlayonLinux and did get my OmniPro PCA program running on it. I did not try SAPI.

    Going to give it another try on my Linux laptop maybe.

    For an Oracle VB you can run a thin / lite XP or use embedded XP. I currently run embedded XP on my Homeseer touchscreens and it works fine with speaker dot exe and a few voice fonts.

    You can build a 4-8 Gb Wintel VB. My current Linux HS3 is using way less than 8 Gb so I do not think you will have a problem with an add of a 32bit lite XP with SAPI.

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  • Kerat
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    HS3 Hardware

    Originally posted by outbackrob View Post
    Been running HS2 & HS3 the last 4 years on an older i7 Lenovo laptop. It's probably a 6yo machine now. With few exceptions, it has run 24/7 for 4 years and it is starting to show it's age. Time for something new before it becomes unreliable...

    What are the minimum requirements for HS3 with 100 nodes, 300 devices and maybe 150 events? (Currently 64 nodes, 150 devices and 50 events...) Currently the machine just runs HS3, iTunes and Outlook and NAV.

    At what point would a machine be considered overkill?


    HS3 is still pretty Lite. I know that there are a few people using Intel Celeron based mini PCs as their HS3 server. Going with a laptop is a great idea as it give you battery backup built in. Overall power consumption is always on my mind, so I don't know that I would stuff an i7 or an i5 under the hood of your new HS3 server. I think a 7th gen Intel laptop with 4GB or more of RAM would be an easy shoe in for a hardware refresh.

    Here, I run an RPI 3 with HS3 standard for Linux. I have a handful of plugins, 368 devices, 39 Zwave nodes, 180 events, and 3 custom scripts. I will be expanding with another 40 Zwave devices or so. My only complaint about the RPI 3 is lack of RAM. It only comes with 1GB of RAM. I would prefer 2 GB or more.

    I think I have the advantage of being the second mouse to HA as I have benefited from the learning curve of the other users on the forum and my friends who are into HS3 and HA at large. Things run pretty well over here.


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  • abwyatt
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    Originally posted by Pete View Post
    With 4Gb of RAM you will be able to run an Oracle lite Wintel VB. So you can do some Homeseer Wintel stuff on it concurrent to running Homeseer on Linux on a credit card sized PC (RPI sized).
    Hi Pete

    I am at the point of looking into SAPI for my new Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit build. My limitation is disk space - 32 GB SSD. So I don't have space for Windows install in an Oracle VB.

    So I was thinking of using Wine. Any experience with SAPI on Wine that you can share? ie. Will HS3 be able to use SAPI TTS with SAPI running from Wine?

    Andrew

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  • outbackrob
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    HS3 Hardware...

    Been running HS2 & HS3 the last 4 years on an older i7 Lenovo laptop. It's probably a 6yo machine now. With few exceptions, it has run 24/7 for 4 years and it is starting to show it's age. Time for something new before it becomes unreliable...

    What are the minimum requirements for HS3 with 100 nodes, 300 devices and maybe 150 events? (Currently 64 nodes, 150 devices and 50 events...) Currently the machine just runs HS3, iTunes and Outlook and NAV.

    At what point would a machine be considered overkill?

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  • Kerat
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    HS3 Hardware

    Originally posted by Pete View Post
    Yes originally the Pine64 did not work well with KODI due to the Video processing.
    Noticed that many of the new computers utilize KODI for benchmarking.

    I had an issue spending more on a plexiglass case for the Pine64 than the computer itself.

    For the Pine64 2 Gb computer used plexiglass case done up by a guitar maker in Spain. It was very well designed and sold on Amazon.

    BTW there is a second NIC on the Rock 64 that you can use such that it could be a firewall. Not sure about running or if anyone has tested BSD on the ROCK64.

    With 4Gb of RAM you will be able to run an Oracle lite Wintel VB. So you can do some Homeseer Wintel stuff on it concurrent to running Homeseer on Linux on a credit card sized PC (RPI sized).


    That sounds pretty cool. I looked into PFSense and they have not made their ARM compiled distribution available to the community. They only made it available to those that have purchased their mini firewall.


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    Last edited by Kerat; November 9th, 2017, 11:19 AM.

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  • Pete
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    Yes originally the Pine64 did not work well with KODI due to the Video processing.
    Noticed that many of the new computers utilize KODI for benchmarking.

    I had an issue spending more on a plexiglass case for the Pine64 than the computer itself.

    For the Pine64 2 Gb computer used plexiglass case done up by a guitar maker in Spain. It was very well designed and sold on Amazon.

    BTW there is a second NIC on the Rock 64 that you can use such that it could be a firewall. Not sure about running or if anyone has tested BSD on the ROCK64.

    With 4Gb of RAM you will be able to run an Oracle lite Wintel VB. So you can do some Homeseer Wintel stuff on it concurrent to running Homeseer on Linux on a credit card sized PC (RPI sized).

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  • Kerat
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    HS3 Hardware

    Originally posted by Pete View Post
    Welcome to the Cocoontech forum Mark.

    A. What would be pro/cons of windows desktop vs. embedded

    Windows 7 embedded is lighter than Windows 7 Pro. I use embedded windows for my Windows tabletop touchscreens today.

    I have seen a custom build of Windows 7 lite which would be similar. You really only need the meat of W7 to run Homeseer. You can use a current license of W7 to install this build.

    B. What version of Win Emb does S6 use?

    Windows 7 embedded - thinking it is around $120.00

    C. Does HS3Pro install on Win Emb

    Just like on regular Windows 7 Pro.

    D. If so, are there any gotchas or special configurations needed
    - especially to keep HS3 running even after reboot/powerfailure...


    No.

    Looking at running Homeseer Lite here on the Rock64 4Gb credit card sized computer inside of my Omni Pro 2 can (much smaller than the Elk can).

    Homeseer Lite is currently running the Leviton Omni Pro 2 plugin on a Pine64 2Gb machine and doing well.

    Currently running HS3 Pro on a Haswell mITX board here with 16Gb and it is doing well.

    Here is a picture of a Haswell i7 series microPC with 16Gb of RAM.

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    5th Generation iSeries (Broadwell) is current standard and 6th Generation iSeries (Skylake ) are already being sold micro sized computers (all heatsink).

    I am really like omg yes ROCK64 w4GB of RAM, and a Poe power adapter. I am going to pick two up and replace my unifi controller and HS3 server. They event make a good DAC so I could also see how they do for use with KODI and my HTPC software.

    I have one of the older Intel 5th Gen (i5 5200U) mini PCs (same case as your Pic) with dual NICs, 8GB of RAM, and a 70GB SSD running as my firewall.


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  • Pete
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    I have been able to run both Windows 10 and Ubuntu on the newer processors with no issues..

    There has been a major change in Homeseer 3 these days incorporating Homeseer Touch into the main program in the last few months. It has caused some issues with some folks running Windows 10 or Linux and not with other folks.

    Personally I use Windows 10 (and W7). a la carte (on demand) on my current laptops/desktops running Ubuntu.

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