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  • No zwave backup and restore in zwave interface menu

    I don't have the menu entries for backup and restore of the zwave database. I just upgraded to v3.0.0.187 (HS3Pro). I have a SmartStick+ on the way so I really need this.

    Attached is a screenshot of the actions menu. As you can see, there is nothing between the 2 lines of "-" where the backup and restore should be.
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  • #2
    What version of the ZWave plug-in are you using? You need to be on a relatively new version for this to work.
    Nicolai L

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    • #3
      Hi,

      I was planning to ask exactly the same question.

      I have an Zwave.me stick and I successfully backup this one up (option is available to me to backup). I want to migrate this stick to my new UZB+ stick. Is this possible?

      If its possible, does the Node ID of the stick also being restored to the new stick? Otherwise I need to change all my associations which I don't want to do.

      The restore function is also not available to me in the latest zwave plugin (3.0.1.17)

      regards

      Bart
      Regards Bart
      ------------------------------------------
      Win7 64Bit on Intel NUCI7 with SSD
      HSPRO 3.
      Devices; 1370 Events; 691

      Jon00 Scripts, JowHue, HSTouch, Plugwise, Z-wave, Ultranetatmo, Ultracam, PHlocation, BLUSBUIRT, MeiHarmony, Buienradar, MEiUnifi Pushover 3P, Random, Nest HSPhone and Blueiris

      Visonic Powermax Alarm System (HS3) Interface: http://www.domoticaforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=11129

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      • #4
        Bart,

        I recently moved to the UZB+ stick and I see the restore function available, also on 3.0.1.17. do you still have a backup available on the default location of the backup? Maybe it is not showing when there are no backups available?

        I restored the backup of a Aeon stick to the UZB device and it restored my old network like a charm. So it should work like you are hoping.

        Wim
        -- Wim

        Plugins:RFXCOM, HSTouch Server, Squeezebox, BLGData, Restart, Jon00's Perfmon and Network monitor, WeatherXML, BLBackup, TenScripting, BC4, Pushover, PHLocation, JowiHue, Zwave, Sonos
        650 devices ---- 336 events ----- 40 scripts

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        • #5
          wim? does it also reinstate the Node ID of the old stick? and yes i have a backup available.

          I added the UZB on the same network, I will try to erase and try again
          Regards Bart
          ------------------------------------------
          Win7 64Bit on Intel NUCI7 with SSD
          HSPRO 3.
          Devices; 1370 Events; 691

          Jon00 Scripts, JowHue, HSTouch, Plugwise, Z-wave, Ultranetatmo, Ultracam, PHlocation, BLUSBUIRT, MeiHarmony, Buienradar, MEiUnifi Pushover 3P, Random, Nest HSPhone and Blueiris

          Visonic Powermax Alarm System (HS3) Interface: http://www.domoticaforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=11129

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          • #6
            The netID is in the backup file (it is readable) and you can restore it with the restore function indeed.

            The procedure to have the UZB active _at least that is how I did it -:

            1. backup the old stick
            2. disable zwave and remove old stick from the machine
            3. put in the new stick and let it install
            4. enable the ZWave plugin and configure it to see the new UZB.
            5. Restore the old backup

            It wil recover the old network - and will add a new one which you can savely remove. To be sure I did a rescan of devices and optimised all.

            All existing device were hummming afterwards.

            *edit:** I realise you already added the UZB to the existing network. Not sure that was a good choice to do. You might want to edit the backup file to remove it?


            Wim
            -- Wim

            Plugins:RFXCOM, HSTouch Server, Squeezebox, BLGData, Restart, Jon00's Perfmon and Network monitor, WeatherXML, BLBackup, TenScripting, BC4, Pushover, PHLocation, JowiHue, Zwave, Sonos
            650 devices ---- 336 events ----- 40 scripts

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            • #7
              Indeed after an erase it worked... however the node ID is not being restored to the new stick...
              Regards Bart
              ------------------------------------------
              Win7 64Bit on Intel NUCI7 with SSD
              HSPRO 3.
              Devices; 1370 Events; 691

              Jon00 Scripts, JowHue, HSTouch, Plugwise, Z-wave, Ultranetatmo, Ultracam, PHlocation, BLUSBUIRT, MeiHarmony, Buienradar, MEiUnifi Pushover 3P, Random, Nest HSPhone and Blueiris

              Visonic Powermax Alarm System (HS3) Interface: http://www.domoticaforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=11129

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bartbakels View Post
                Indeed after an erase it worked... however the node ID is not being restored to the new stick...
                Check the backup file with an editor, it should hold the network ID? And make sure the old stick is removed from the machine.
                -- Wim

                Plugins:RFXCOM, HSTouch Server, Squeezebox, BLGData, Restart, Jon00's Perfmon and Network monitor, WeatherXML, BLBackup, TenScripting, BC4, Pushover, PHLocation, JowiHue, Zwave, Sonos
                650 devices ---- 336 events ----- 40 scripts

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                • #9
                  Z wave version

                  Originally posted by NicolaiL View Post
                  What version of the ZWave plug-in are you using? You need to be on a relatively new version for this to work.
                  My zwave plugin version is 3.0.0.150. I don't remember ever updating it. I assumed that the plugin got updated when I updated HS3 Pro.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jimbell View Post
                    My zwave plugin version is 3.0.0.150. I don't remember ever updating it. I assumed that the plugin got updated when I updated HS3 Pro.
                    You indeed need to update it through the manage plugins page.

                    It is in the newer versions

                    Wim
                    -- Wim

                    Plugins:RFXCOM, HSTouch Server, Squeezebox, BLGData, Restart, Jon00's Perfmon and Network monitor, WeatherXML, BLBackup, TenScripting, BC4, Pushover, PHLocation, JowiHue, Zwave, Sonos
                    650 devices ---- 336 events ----- 40 scripts

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                    • #11
                      wim had your stick node ID 1? Mine had 95, but this is still being restored as node 1 (the new stick).
                      95 is on top of the backup file
                      Regards Bart
                      ------------------------------------------
                      Win7 64Bit on Intel NUCI7 with SSD
                      HSPRO 3.
                      Devices; 1370 Events; 691

                      Jon00 Scripts, JowHue, HSTouch, Plugwise, Z-wave, Ultranetatmo, Ultracam, PHlocation, BLUSBUIRT, MeiHarmony, Buienradar, MEiUnifi Pushover 3P, Random, Nest HSPhone and Blueiris

                      Visonic Powermax Alarm System (HS3) Interface: http://www.domoticaforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=11129

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                      • #12
                        Bart,

                        The node id of the primary controller is always 1 I believe? So if your UZB stick becomes primary it will take node 1 by design. I guess the original node 1 was the old stick and the UZB is taking its place.

                        In you case the UZB has been part of the network, so its node id will change I think.
                        What I remember that in the node overview you wil still see the old stick, but after a optimize it will all change to the new stick.

                        The important question is if the network id is still the same as the old one? If that is the case, start an optimaze and eventually remove node 95 as being the new stick.

                        Wim
                        -- Wim

                        Plugins:RFXCOM, HSTouch Server, Squeezebox, BLGData, Restart, Jon00's Perfmon and Network monitor, WeatherXML, BLBackup, TenScripting, BC4, Pushover, PHLocation, JowiHue, Zwave, Sonos
                        650 devices ---- 336 events ----- 40 scripts

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                        • #13
                          Hi.

                          I had exactly the same problem with no RESTORE. Needless to say I started to worry. I did an upgrade of the Zwave plugin software and the RESTORE feature appeared.

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                          • #14
                            Need clarification

                            Originally posted by w.vuyk View Post
                            You indeed need to update it through the manage plugins page.

                            It is in the newer versions

                            Wim
                            Is my current version old? If so, what is the latest version. When I display the manage plugins page, and click update listing, I get nothing to update.

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                            • #15
                              Nope...

                              Did some testing with a dummy restore file (on my backup machine and created a dummy restore file with dummy network). It always makes the restore to node 1. I got my UZB removed from my network andmanaged to create a dummy network. did a restore again, with my test backups and the realbackup file with the removed node addresses. still no luck. Every time the stick will be restored as node 1.

                              However my backup source ( my real primary) is 95.

                              Thus if I continu I have to update all my associations to the newly created node 1, which will be a pain with about 65 Zwave modules...

                              So I guess we have an issue. Node 1 in my original network is another (secondary Controller) that will be removed by the restore process as well. I think i have to create an Bug entry for this one?
                              Last edited by bartbakels; June 25th, 2015, 09:09 AM.
                              Regards Bart
                              ------------------------------------------
                              Win7 64Bit on Intel NUCI7 with SSD
                              HSPRO 3.
                              Devices; 1370 Events; 691

                              Jon00 Scripts, JowHue, HSTouch, Plugwise, Z-wave, Ultranetatmo, Ultracam, PHlocation, BLUSBUIRT, MeiHarmony, Buienradar, MEiUnifi Pushover 3P, Random, Nest HSPhone and Blueiris

                              Visonic Powermax Alarm System (HS3) Interface: http://www.domoticaforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=11129

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