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  • What is the ultimate infrared device to use with HS3?

    I'm slowly moving from HS2Pro to HS3Pro. I used an Ocelot in HS2 for infrared and X10. I will not have any X10 in my HS3 setup, but still want an Ocelot-like IR experience. The Ocelot could receive, learn and send IR as well as react to IR triggers (or pass these received triggers on to S for it to react to).

    I cannot seem to be able to find an HS3-friendly replacement that has the same capabilities for IR. I've looked at the GC devices, but they do not appear to be able to do what I want. Any suggestions?
    John
    Hardware: i5-6400T w/16GB RAM & SSD w/HS3Pro, Z-Net, Harmony Hub x2, Echo Dot x2, Ocelot
    Plugins: Z-wave, HSTouch, BLBackup, Harmony, GTS CPUXA, UltraMon3, Nest
    HSTouch: Multiple Android Devices; 5 x ToteVision MD-1001 10.1" Win 7 Tablets
    Devices: Cooper RF9501 x4, RF9517 x6, RF9534 x1, RF9540-N x7, RF9542 x1, RF9542-Z x2, RFHDSCG x1, RFWC5 x5; Intermatic HA02 x6; FortrezZ MIMOLite x3; Leviton VRPD3-1LW x4, VRR15-1LZ x6; Nest Tstat & 9x Protects; Dragon PD-100 x3, PA-100 x3

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    I used an Ocelot in HS2 as well. I have yet to do IR in HS3 but I have been researching what I want to get.

    I am leaning towards the Global Cache devices.
    http://store.homeseer.com/store/Infr...ntrol-C47.aspx
    I like that it can be controlled via Ethernet and wifi.
    --
    Jeff Farmer
    HS 3, HSPhone
    My HS3 Plugins: CFHSExtras, Random, Restart, Tracker, WeatherXML, PanaBluRay
    Other Plugins In Use: APCUPSD, BLOnkyo, Device History, EasyTrigger, HSTouch Server, PHLocation2, Pushover, RFXCom, UltraGCIR3, UltraMon3, UltraPioneerAVR3, X10, Z-Wave

    Hardware: GoControl Irrigation Controler, Schlage Lever Lock, Schlage Deadbolt, Way2Call Hi-Phone, RFXCom RFXrec433 Receiver, WGL 800, TI-103, Z-Net, Pioneer 1120, Pioneer 1021, Pioneer LX302, Panasonic BDT-110, Panasonic BDT-210 x2

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    • #3
      Ditto on GlobalCache. The 3 output emitter is pretty solid. I can actually control more than 3 TV's if different brands. I have only one at the central HS server over Cat5 and control 6 TV's.

      I use these Cat5 to 3.5mm adapters to convert over Cat5 with no splicing needed:
      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D0E6R96

      Note - you normally need a 3.5mm female to female adapter as most ir dongles are male.

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      • #4
        I used an Ocelot in HS2 and moved to a Global Cache IP2IR for HS3. It has been 100% reliable using the HST plugin.
        Jon

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        • #5
          Thanks guys. I've got a rather robust xantach system that takes care of the distro part - I really only need one port (had an SECU-IR, but don't use it anymore), though zoning (if the GC device can transmit independently to each port) would be helpful. I'm mostly looking at the interface to HS with both reception and transmission abilities. From my quick review of the GC devices, they do not appear to have reception capabilities, or is there an addon that does the receiving.

          With the Ocelot, I have IR triggers from my remote for various activities, for example, watching a DVD - the remote sends a trigger and the Ocelot turns things on, switches input, adjust volumes. At one point I even had current sensors on my non-discrete on/off devices so the ocelot would only toggle them on if they were off. All the logic resided in the ocelot unless I needed something the ocelot could not do (like zwave or speech), then I either had HS also watch for the trigger and act on it (or made the ocelot program toggle a register and HS act on that change), or just have it all reside in HS. Using HS and/or the ocelot react to a single IR trigger to execute multiple actions was nice, because I did not have to keep the remote aimed for the multiple seconds required for the IR sensor to see all the commands, just had to aim it for the instance the trigger command was sent. I typically used IR signals from equipment I knew I'd never own (like a McIntosh Amp) as triggers.

          So any all-in-one IR box out there - send and receive?
          Last edited by jrfuda; September 14th, 2015, 12:18 PM. Reason: typos
          John
          Hardware: i5-6400T w/16GB RAM & SSD w/HS3Pro, Z-Net, Harmony Hub x2, Echo Dot x2, Ocelot
          Plugins: Z-wave, HSTouch, BLBackup, Harmony, GTS CPUXA, UltraMon3, Nest
          HSTouch: Multiple Android Devices; 5 x ToteVision MD-1001 10.1" Win 7 Tablets
          Devices: Cooper RF9501 x4, RF9517 x6, RF9534 x1, RF9540-N x7, RF9542 x1, RF9542-Z x2, RFHDSCG x1, RFWC5 x5; Intermatic HA02 x6; FortrezZ MIMOLite x3; Leviton VRPD3-1LW x4, VRR15-1LZ x6; Nest Tstat & 9x Protects; Dragon PD-100 x3, PA-100 x3

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jrfuda View Post
            or is there an addon that does the receiving.
            Hi John,

            Yes, there is an add-on receiver: http://www.globalcache.com/files/doc...G1_distrib.pdf. The UltraJones GCIR plugin supports it.

            Cheers
            Al
            HS 3.0.0.531: 1985 Devices 1128 Events
            Z-Wave 3.0.1.260: 122 Nodes on one Z-Net

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sparkman View Post
              Yes, there is an add-on receiver: http://www.globalcache.com/files/doc...G1_distrib.pdf. The UltraJones GCIR plugin supports it.
              Thanks.

              This document http://www.globalcache.com/files/doc...RE_distrib.pdf makes it look like I can use my existing Xantech receiver to get the IR into the IRE, then the IRE to the GC. Another $77 on top of the cost of the GC-100. Looks like the IP2IR, much less expensive, does not have anyway to receive IR, with or without an adapter, or am I missing something?
              John
              Hardware: i5-6400T w/16GB RAM & SSD w/HS3Pro, Z-Net, Harmony Hub x2, Echo Dot x2, Ocelot
              Plugins: Z-wave, HSTouch, BLBackup, Harmony, GTS CPUXA, UltraMon3, Nest
              HSTouch: Multiple Android Devices; 5 x ToteVision MD-1001 10.1" Win 7 Tablets
              Devices: Cooper RF9501 x4, RF9517 x6, RF9534 x1, RF9540-N x7, RF9542 x1, RF9542-Z x2, RFHDSCG x1, RFWC5 x5; Intermatic HA02 x6; FortrezZ MIMOLite x3; Leviton VRPD3-1LW x4, VRR15-1LZ x6; Nest Tstat & 9x Protects; Dragon PD-100 x3, PA-100 x3

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jrfuda View Post
                Thanks.

                This document http://www.globalcache.com/files/doc...RE_distrib.pdf makes it look like I can use my existing Xantech receiver to get the IR into the IRE, then the IRE to the GC. Another $77 on top of the cost of the GC-100. Looks like the IP2IR, much less expensive, does not have anyway to receive IR, with or without an adapter, or am I missing something?
                That's my understanding as well on both those items. You can typically find the GC-100's on eBay for much less than list price.

                Cheers
                Al
                HS 3.0.0.531: 1985 Devices 1128 Events
                Z-Wave 3.0.1.260: 122 Nodes on one Z-Net

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                • #9
                  Primer on infrared and HS3 Pro?

                  I've got a HomeTroller S6 Pro and yet I was just about to buy this http://www.simplecontrol.com/
                  because I don't have a handle on how IR control through HS3 (via an iPad) can work.

                  I know that a Global Cache WF2IR is part of the solution but beyond that I do not understand how I "teach" or "program" HS to translate a given input into the output for a given device. IOW, what is required to make this work?

                  Is there a primer somewhere on this?

                  Thanks,

                  Ken

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