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    Looking at the latest forum (Feb/Mar) postings it doesn't look like HS4 is ready for the causal user (I know that its in Beta) or am I miss interrupting the tea leaves? With that said when "rough timeline" do we think it's possible to move ones HS3 over to HS4 platform with some confidence and without tribulations? Mike
    Computer: CUK Intel NUC7i7BNH
    Op System: Windows10 Pro - Work Station
    HS Version: HS4 Pro Edition 4.2.19.0

    Plug-Ins: AK Weather 4.0.5.25,APCUPSD 3.3.2.3,BLBackup 2.0.63.0,BLEditor 2.0.11.0,BLGData 3.0.55.0,BLOccupied 2.0.28.0,BLShutdown 1.0.6.0,Blue-Iris 3.1.3.33206,Device History 3.2.0.2,EasyTrigger 3.0.0.76,Harmony Hub 4.0.14.0,iRobot 5.22.41.1,JowiHue 4.0.8.7,Nest 3.0.0.34,NetCam Plugin 1.0.0.5,PHLocation2 3.0.0.64,Pushover 4.0.10.0,Random 3.0.0.2,Restart 1.0.0.7,Ring 1.0.0.9,SDJ-Health 3.1.1.3,Sonos 3.1.0.59,Sonos4 4.0.1.12,UltraCID3 3.0.6681.34300,UltraMon3 3.0.6554.33094,UltraNetCam3 3.0.6413.20219,Unifi 4.0.32.0,Zigbee 4.0.11.0,Z-Wave 4.0.3.0, and Jon00 scripts.

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    Originally posted by MNB View Post
    Looking at the latest forum (Feb/Mar) postings it doesn't look like HS4 is ready for the causal user (I know that its in Beta) or am I miss interrupting the tea leaves? With that said when "rough timeline" do we think it's possible to move ones HS3 over to HS4 platform with some confidence and without tribulations? Mike
    Everyone’s opinion is going to be different. Mine is that it’s going to be a few months. However there are a few that have moved over...


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    HS4 4.2.6.0 &HSTouch Designer 3.0.80
    Plugin's:
    BLBackup, BLOccupied, BLShutdown, EasyTrigger, Ecobee, Nest, AK Bond
    EnvisaLink DSC, PHLocation, Pushover, SONOS, Blue Iris, UltraRachio3,
    weatherXML, Jon00 Alexa Helper, Network Monitor, MyQ, Z-Wave

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      #3
      Nathan, thanks for the back. I ditto you observation, I was hoping to hear something from the HS folks from their planed scheduling to transition from Beta to the initial release...
      Computer: CUK Intel NUC7i7BNH
      Op System: Windows10 Pro - Work Station
      HS Version: HS4 Pro Edition 4.2.19.0

      Plug-Ins: AK Weather 4.0.5.25,APCUPSD 3.3.2.3,BLBackup 2.0.63.0,BLEditor 2.0.11.0,BLGData 3.0.55.0,BLOccupied 2.0.28.0,BLShutdown 1.0.6.0,Blue-Iris 3.1.3.33206,Device History 3.2.0.2,EasyTrigger 3.0.0.76,Harmony Hub 4.0.14.0,iRobot 5.22.41.1,JowiHue 4.0.8.7,Nest 3.0.0.34,NetCam Plugin 1.0.0.5,PHLocation2 3.0.0.64,Pushover 4.0.10.0,Random 3.0.0.2,Restart 1.0.0.7,Ring 1.0.0.9,SDJ-Health 3.1.1.3,Sonos 3.1.0.59,Sonos4 4.0.1.12,UltraCID3 3.0.6681.34300,UltraMon3 3.0.6554.33094,UltraNetCam3 3.0.6413.20219,Unifi 4.0.32.0,Zigbee 4.0.11.0,Z-Wave 4.0.3.0, and Jon00 scripts.

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        #4
        With the onslaught of reported bugs, the HS team appear to have gone surprisingly quiet.....?
        Jon

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          #5
          https://forums.homeseer.com/forum/de...8-full-release
          HS 4.2.8.0: 2134 Devices 1252 Events
          Z-Wave 3.0.10.0: 133 Nodes on one Z-Net

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            #6
            I'm not trying to generate a Bi..ch thread but simply trying to figure out when I should be expecting a functional HS4 release e.g. this spring, summer or later otherwise I will go back to sleep and continue running with HS3.

            Jon, hence the post as I did not find anything answering my inquisitive enquiry..

            @Al, thanxs for link to a similar posting, I see that they too didn't get a ball park answer.. Mike
            Computer: CUK Intel NUC7i7BNH
            Op System: Windows10 Pro - Work Station
            HS Version: HS4 Pro Edition 4.2.19.0

            Plug-Ins: AK Weather 4.0.5.25,APCUPSD 3.3.2.3,BLBackup 2.0.63.0,BLEditor 2.0.11.0,BLGData 3.0.55.0,BLOccupied 2.0.28.0,BLShutdown 1.0.6.0,Blue-Iris 3.1.3.33206,Device History 3.2.0.2,EasyTrigger 3.0.0.76,Harmony Hub 4.0.14.0,iRobot 5.22.41.1,JowiHue 4.0.8.7,Nest 3.0.0.34,NetCam Plugin 1.0.0.5,PHLocation2 3.0.0.64,Pushover 4.0.10.0,Random 3.0.0.2,Restart 1.0.0.7,Ring 1.0.0.9,SDJ-Health 3.1.1.3,Sonos 3.1.0.59,Sonos4 4.0.1.12,UltraCID3 3.0.6681.34300,UltraMon3 3.0.6554.33094,UltraNetCam3 3.0.6413.20219,Unifi 4.0.32.0,Zigbee 4.0.11.0,Z-Wave 4.0.3.0, and Jon00 scripts.

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              #7
              It all depends upon the particulars of your setup and your expectations. If you want to run HS4 only or HS4 with HS3 plugins (like compatibility mode) then you should be able to transitions whenever you desire. If you want anything that is native HS4 such as a Z-wave or many other plugins, then it is not ready. In my case Hubitat and mcsShelly have been released as native HS4 and the only thing missing from these is the scripting support that is not yet in native HS4.

              If you purchased HS4 for the mobile-oriented interface then you can move over now. If you purchased it for other features that primarily replaced 3rd party offerings then it is not quite ready and better off continuing to use the 3rd party HS3 plugins for this functionality. If you purchased it for capabilities in the future then I would wait until HS4 API will support the same things as were supported in the HS3 API and the authors of the plugins that you use have had the chance to migrate to this new API.

              For any of us it is just a guess as to when it will be ready and "ready" means different things to different people.. HST stopped HS3 development in Aug 2019 with expectation that HS4 would be ready for the start of 2020. What has surprised me is that their flagship plugin Zwave is still not ready. Clearly the transitions has more implications than forecast. In my case I will stay with HS3 for the foreseeable future as there is nothing that HS4 offers that is of interest to me and software maturity is more important than a feature list.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Michael McSharry View Post
                It all depends upon the particulars of your setup and your expectations. If you want to run HS4 only or HS4 with HS3 plugins (like compatibility mode) then you should be able to transitions whenever you desire. If you want anything that is native HS4 such as a Z-wave or many other plugins, then it is not ready. In my case Hubitat and mcsShelly have been released as native HS4 and the only thing missing from these is the scripting support that is not yet in native HS4.

                If you purchased HS4 for the mobile-oriented interface then you can move over now. If you purchased it for other features that primarily replaced 3rd party offerings then it is not quite ready and better off continuing to use the 3rd party HS3 plugins for this functionality. If you purchased it for capabilities in the future then I would wait until HS4 API will support the same things as were supported in the HS3 API and the authors of the plugins that you use have had the chance to migrate to this new API.

                For any of us it is just a guess as to when it will be ready and "ready" means different things to different people.. HST stopped HS3 development in Aug 2019 with expectation that HS4 would be ready for the start of 2020. What has surprised me is that their flagship plugin Zwave is still not ready. Clearly the transitions has more implications than forecast. In my case I will stay with HS3 for the foreseeable future as there is nothing that HS4 offers that is of interest to me and software maturity is more important than a feature list.
                Thanks Michael you are so correct. I have been using HS4 as my primary machine for a couple of weeks (I have a HS3 backup if I have to go there). There are bugs of course but I haven’t had a drop out except for a few legacy plugins. The biggest issue I have is that when you do a restart of HS4 the plugins don’t dance well together. What I do is shut all of the HS3 plugins down before a restart then start them up one by one until they say Okay then start the next one. Some are slow to start but they all will this way and no more plugin problems. I haven’t touched the system for about a week now and besides the bugs folks are discovering I’m not using the system for them or I have already worked around them. My big ace in the hole is Jon00 links. If I can’t fixit in HS4 most of the time I can with the Legacy HS3 pages in Jon00 links.

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