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    Proxmox VE as High Availability solution for HomeSeer

    Is anybody using Proxmox as High Availability solution for HomeSeer? Or are there easier alternatives available?

    Planning to make HomeSeer High Available.

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    John

    #2
    That would work if you run some sort of virtual (or real) san.
    Both can be done quite easily with proxmox+ceph.

    Any USB-devices (z-wave, conbee, etc.) should be connected via some wort of network/USB-solution.

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      #3
      Proxmox is probably the easiest solution for what you are doing.
      XenServer/XenOrchestra could be a viable alternative.

      Hyper-V + Storage Spaces or vmware +vsan (expensive as ****) would also work.

      Pure KVM on a centos host would be my preferred solution, I guess.

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        #4
        Originally posted by lurendrejer View Post
        That would work if you run some sort of virtual (or real) san.
        Both can be done quite easily with proxmox+ceph.

        Any USB-devices (z-wave, conbee, etc.) should be connected via some wort of network/USB-solution.
        Thanks,

        As I'm currently runing on a VM al my devices go over IP.

        To my information a SAN is very expensive. A LUN on my NAS will not work?

        Did you try Proxmox yourself?

        I do not have the money to go the VMWare route


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          #5
          Originally posted by lurendrejer View Post
          That would work if you run some sort of virtual (or real) san.
          Both can be done quite easily with proxmox+ceph.

          Any USB-devices (z-wave, conbee, etc.) should be connected via some wort of network/USB-solution.
          Did you ever run Ceph. It looks like all the coes and memory will be reuired to run Ceph.

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            #6
            I've been running a 48 server / 12tb ram / 1000+ core proxmox cluster for quite some time.
            Using pure KVM now.

            A lun on your NAS would do just fine, I'd go for an NFS share or iSCSI if you are feeling adventurous - Ceph is used to create a virtual SAN, any virtual SAN hogs ressources.

            I have been looking into doing something with interconnected NUCs (via firewire) to create a 10gb+ virtual SAN setup with minimal power draw - for the home.

            Creating a very complicated high availability setup and using a single NAS-device as storage, seems dimwitted. Since your NAS could fail just as well as any of your virtualisation nodes. Hence a virtual SAN/duplicated storage would be preferable.

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              #7
              Originally posted by lurendrejer View Post
              I've been running a 48 server / 12tb ram / 1000+ core proxmox cluster for quite some time.
              Using pure KVM now.

              A lun on your NAS would do just fine, I'd go for an NFS share or iSCSI if you are feeling adventurous - Ceph is used to create a virtual SAN, any virtual SAN hogs ressources.

              I have been looking into doing something with interconnected NUCs (via firewire) to create a 10gb+ virtual SAN setup with minimal power draw - for the home.

              Creating a very complicated high availability setup and using a single NAS-device as storage, seems dimwitted. Since your NAS could fail just as well as any of your virtualisation nodes. Hence a virtual SAN/duplicated storage would be preferable.
              I fully agree. However it will take 5 cores of the IntelĀ® NUC Kit NUC9I9QNX2 barebone, which only have 8 cores and it will take 30 GB 0f RAM (of the 64).

              Or do I overlook something?

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              John

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                #8
                With homeseers minimal I/O I would not think those resources would be required

                I don't know what happened to nutanix (acropolis) it was really hyped a few years back. Maybe I should look into that again as a side-project.

                A virtual SAN hogs ressouces and if you really want to follow the guidelines, you would have three cores left for homeseer - which in most cases would be fine.
                It would still be cheaper than a full duplicated san-solution.

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                  #9
                  I never found a way to have three nodes connected via thunderbolt.
                  LInux drivers for TB was pure dread when I first thought about trying it.

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                    #10
                    And, I'm sorry if I don't get my points across. I'm writing these posts on my phone - and I tend to miss emoji's, etc. When using the phone.

                    It sounds like quite a neat project - and if you had some specifics about your requirements I think we could come up with something quite cool

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                      #11
                      And another question

                      Why?
                      Do you have something that is life / death -important? Fishtanks maybe?

                      HA is quite often not just twice or thrice the price.

                      Again, cool project though.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by lurendrejer View Post
                        And another question

                        Why?
                        Do you have something that is life / death -important? Fishtanks maybe?

                        HA is quite often not just twice or thrice the price.

                        Again, cool project though.
                        I have the WAF factor. Values of the pond are included in HomeSeer but in this case HomeSeer communicatis with the "KOICONTROL" system.

                        And I did want to know more an experience with HA. But it seems That Ceph will add a lot of costs.

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                        John

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                          #13
                          Maybe less will do just fine.
                          Proxmox has the ability to duplicate vms to another host (with a small delay).

                          You could do a backup/duplication every five minutes and automatically boot the replica if the primary host is down.

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                            #14
                            Are you running homeseer on Windows or Linux?
                            It would be quite easy to just replicate the homeseer data between two vms and use your NAS as a passive witness. Then start/stop the homeseer service as any other clustered service. Virtual HA is not the only solution.

                            I don't know if homeseers license-model supports this, though.

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                              #15
                              The thing about HA and virtualisation or any type of replication is, that it doesn't protect you from corruption of homeseers data - delayed replication/backup does.

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