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    Backup involving multiple Z-Nets

    This topic has been asked and answered, but the clarity of the answers was occluded in a morass of dead links concerning "Homeseer Help." What is the best practice in using Homeseer to back up multiple z-nets?
    HomeSeer Version: HS4 Pro Edition 4.2.19.0 (Windows - Running as a Service)
    Home Assistant 2024.3
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro - Desktop
    Z-Wave Devices via two Z-Net G3s
    Zigbee Devices via RaspBee on RPi 3b+
    WiFi Devices via Internal Router.

    Enabled Plug-Ins
    AK GoogleCalendar 4.0.4.16,AK HomeAssistant 4.0.1.23,AK SmartDevice 4.0.5.1,AK Weather 4.0.5.181,AmbientWeather 3.0.1.9,Big6 3.44.0.0,BLBackup 2.0.64.0,BLGData 3.0.55.0,BLLock 3.0.39.0,BLUPS 2.0.26.0,Device History 4.5.1.1,EasyTrigger 3.0.0.76,Harmony Hub 4.0.14.0,HSBuddy 4.51.303.0,JowiHue 4.1.4.0,LG ThinQ 4.0.26.0,ONVIF Events 1.0.0.5,SDJ-Health 3.1.1.9,TPLinkSmartHome4 2022.12.30.0,UltraCID3 3.0.6681.34300,Z-Wave 4.1.3.0

    #2
    You shouldn’t need to bother, since a backup is created with each inclusion or exclusion. If you want a manual backup, you need to do one for each controller. David zwolfpack helped me put together an automatic backup script. I’m not using it any longer. I could probably dig it up again.
    HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.16 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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      #3
      Let me be more specific. I'm running Version 4.16.2.0 and thinking of upgrading to the latest beta. I obviously want to cover my backside as I have been epically burned by HST betas before. I am currently using BLBackUp and capturing the entire HS4 directory structure. I'm beginning to wonder if that is enough, since running multiple hubs is new to me. So, I'm thinking a manual backup might be a bit excessive, but very cheap insurance.

      1) So, that said, I think you are saying that for a manual backup, I need to back up all (both, in my case) Z-Nets via [Plugins>Z-Wave>{controller_Name}>Actions>Backup This Interface] for each hub and then do a manual backup of HS4 via [Tools>Backup/Restore>Backup Now]. Do I have that right?

      2) Does capturing the HS4 directory structure cover me entirely, if I lose a hub or hard drive? What do I not get in this step that I would have in step (1)? Anything?

      PS
      If step 1 is chosen, does one run restore just once?
      HomeSeer Version: HS4 Pro Edition 4.2.19.0 (Windows - Running as a Service)
      Home Assistant 2024.3
      Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro - Desktop
      Z-Wave Devices via two Z-Net G3s
      Zigbee Devices via RaspBee on RPi 3b+
      WiFi Devices via Internal Router.

      Enabled Plug-Ins
      AK GoogleCalendar 4.0.4.16,AK HomeAssistant 4.0.1.23,AK SmartDevice 4.0.5.1,AK Weather 4.0.5.181,AmbientWeather 3.0.1.9,Big6 3.44.0.0,BLBackup 2.0.64.0,BLGData 3.0.55.0,BLLock 3.0.39.0,BLUPS 2.0.26.0,Device History 4.5.1.1,EasyTrigger 3.0.0.76,Harmony Hub 4.0.14.0,HSBuddy 4.51.303.0,JowiHue 4.1.4.0,LG ThinQ 4.0.26.0,ONVIF Events 1.0.0.5,SDJ-Health 3.1.1.9,TPLinkSmartHome4 2022.12.30.0,UltraCID3 3.0.6681.34300,Z-Wave 4.1.3.0

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        #4
        Originally posted by randy View Post
        You shouldn’t need to bother, since a backup is created with each inclusion or exclusion. If you want a manual backup, you need to do one for each controller. David zwolfpack helped me put together an automatic backup script. I’m not using it any longer. I could probably dig it up again.
        Randy if you can dig up that script that would be most helpful.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ewkearns View Post
          Let me be more specific. I'm running Version 4.16.2.0 and thinking of upgrading to the latest beta. I obviously want to cover my backside as I have been epically burned by HST betas before. I am currently using BLBackUp and capturing the entire HS4 directory structure. I'm beginning to wonder if that is enough, since running multiple hubs is new to me. So, I'm thinking a manual backup might be a bit excessive, but very cheap insurance.

          1) So, that said, I think you are saying that for a manual backup, I need to back up all (both, in my case) Z-Nets via [Plugins>Z-Wave>{controller_Name}>Actions>Backup This Interface] for each hub and then do a manual backup of HS4 via [Tools>Backup/Restore>Backup Now]. Do I have that right?

          2) Does capturing the HS4 directory structure cover me entirely, if I lose a hub or hard drive? What do I not get in this step that I would have in step (1)? Anything?

          PS
          If step 1 is chosen, does one run restore just once?
          Your Z-Nets automatically create a backup in the /data/Z-Wave folder each time an inclusion or exclusion is performed. A backup of the entire \HomeSeer HS4 directory will also backup the backups. Z-Wave node data is stored in flash memory on the Z-Nets. While backups are important, unless the daughter card in the Z-Net fails, that data is stable.
          HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.16 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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            #6
            Originally posted by Bigstevep View Post

            Randy if you can dig up that script that would be most helpful.
            It might be tomorrow, but I’m sure I have it in backups.

            HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.16 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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              #7
              Originally posted by randy View Post
              Your Z-Nets automatically create a backup in the /data/Z-Wave folder each time an inclusion or exclusion is performed. A backup of the entire \HomeSeer HS4 directory will also backup the backups. Z-Wave node data is stored in &las memory on the Z-Nets. While backups are important, unless the daughter card in the Z-Net fails, that data is stable.
              Thanks, that makes me feel better. I really wish we had documentation on this stuff...
              HomeSeer Version: HS4 Pro Edition 4.2.19.0 (Windows - Running as a Service)
              Home Assistant 2024.3
              Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro - Desktop
              Z-Wave Devices via two Z-Net G3s
              Zigbee Devices via RaspBee on RPi 3b+
              WiFi Devices via Internal Router.

              Enabled Plug-Ins
              AK GoogleCalendar 4.0.4.16,AK HomeAssistant 4.0.1.23,AK SmartDevice 4.0.5.1,AK Weather 4.0.5.181,AmbientWeather 3.0.1.9,Big6 3.44.0.0,BLBackup 2.0.64.0,BLGData 3.0.55.0,BLLock 3.0.39.0,BLUPS 2.0.26.0,Device History 4.5.1.1,EasyTrigger 3.0.0.76,Harmony Hub 4.0.14.0,HSBuddy 4.51.303.0,JowiHue 4.1.4.0,LG ThinQ 4.0.26.0,ONVIF Events 1.0.0.5,SDJ-Health 3.1.1.9,TPLinkSmartHome4 2022.12.30.0,UltraCID3 3.0.6681.34300,Z-Wave 4.1.3.0

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                #8
                Originally posted by ewkearns View Post

                Thanks, that makes me feel better. I really wish we had documentation on this stuff...
                Then I wouldn't have the post count that I do

                HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.16 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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                  #9
                  https://forums.homeseer.com/forum/li...-backup-script

                  Not compatible with Z-Wave plugin v4 ...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by zwolfpack View Post
                    https://forums.homeseer.com/forum/li...-backup-script

                    Not compatible with Z-Wave plugin v4 ...
                    Thank you.

                    HS4 Pro, 4.2.19.16 Windows 10 pro, Supermicro LP Xeon

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by zwolfpack View Post
                      https://forums.homeseer.com/forum/li...-backup-script

                      Not compatible with Z-Wave plugin v4 ...
                      Thanks. How about the G3 Znet with the banana PI or unknown and I'll have to test it?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by randy View Post
                        Then I wouldn't have the post count that I do
                        ROFL.... Yep!
                        HomeSeer Version: HS4 Pro Edition 4.2.19.0 (Windows - Running as a Service)
                        Home Assistant 2024.3
                        Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro - Desktop
                        Z-Wave Devices via two Z-Net G3s
                        Zigbee Devices via RaspBee on RPi 3b+
                        WiFi Devices via Internal Router.

                        Enabled Plug-Ins
                        AK GoogleCalendar 4.0.4.16,AK HomeAssistant 4.0.1.23,AK SmartDevice 4.0.5.1,AK Weather 4.0.5.181,AmbientWeather 3.0.1.9,Big6 3.44.0.0,BLBackup 2.0.64.0,BLGData 3.0.55.0,BLLock 3.0.39.0,BLUPS 2.0.26.0,Device History 4.5.1.1,EasyTrigger 3.0.0.76,Harmony Hub 4.0.14.0,HSBuddy 4.51.303.0,JowiHue 4.1.4.0,LG ThinQ 4.0.26.0,ONVIF Events 1.0.0.5,SDJ-Health 3.1.1.9,TPLinkSmartHome4 2022.12.30.0,UltraCID3 3.0.6681.34300,Z-Wave 4.1.3.0

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