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  • dcorsus
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    Originally posted by Heychristian View Post
    Thanks for quick reply. You have a good point--I do NOT see ability in the Ring APP to adjust/control brightness, so it makes sense the HS device for "brightness" would not change anything. The Ring app does allow the Light to be turned ON and OFF, regardless if Motion Detection toggle is ON or OFF.

    If the light is on--due either to motion or to user turning on the light via Ring APP--then the HS device "Light Mode" will turn off the light , by setting that device to "Default"

    The relevant checkbox in the Ring APP is labeled "Motion Detection" and it is on ON/OFF toggle. It would be great if PI could control that.

    Attached shows Ring APP interface and HS plugin log entries when I use the Ring APP to toggle “Lights” and toggle “Motion Detection"

    thanks so much
    When you use the Ring App and click on that "light settings" what do you get/see?
    I do need that capture file to see how and what Ring provides through it's API. The log seems to suggest that this is actually a zwave device, which would be quite interesting, given I have a "sorta the same family" kind of device (solar powered garden light) that I can control the brightness from.

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  • Heychristian
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    Thanks for quick reply. You have a good point--I do NOT see ability in the Ring APP to adjust/control brightness, so it makes sense the HS device for "brightness" would not change anything. The Ring app does allow the Light to be turned ON and OFF, regardless if Motion Detection toggle is ON or OFF.

    If the light is on--due either to motion or to user turning on the light via Ring APP--then the HS device "Light Mode" will turn off the light , by setting that device to "Default"

    The relevant checkbox in the Ring APP is labeled "Motion Detection" and it is on ON/OFF toggle. It would be great if PI could control that.

    Attached shows Ring APP interface and HS plugin log entries when I use the Ring APP to toggle “Lights” and toggle “Motion Detection"

    thanks so much
    Attached Files

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  • dcorsus
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    Originally posted by Heychristian View Post
    I am using non-camera Ring Floodlight Wired model number 5w21s8-a.
    1) can HS4 can turn off or dim to zero (or close to zero) a light, and keep off the lights, without using the Ring app to disable the Ring motion detection? It appears the PI does not allow one to toggle on/off Ring "Motion Detection"
    2) What is the "Brightness" HS device? When I move the slider, the brightness of the light does not change.
    The use case is to have the option keep the floodlights off, even if there is motion, without using the ring app to disable "Motion Detection".​
    thanks
    There a few things I would need:

    1. what exactly can you do with the Ring APP itself? Can you control brightness and turn it all the way down? What are all the controls, under various parts (could be LED settings, device settings ....)
    2. Make a capture file and PM it (see help file) (settings->debug->Capture) and PM me the log
    3. If the brightness feature doesn't work, can you set the debug level to events and errors, and then move that brightness slider? Capture the log entries (wait a minute) and post those log entries. Do you see errors?

    Do note that this device is part of the "camera/doorbell" family of devices (even it doesn't have either), it is a device that requires polling to see changes. So make sure that you wait a bit if you change the brightness, it may take a refresh cycle to update in HS (depending on how you have set your polling refresh rates). Obvious, you should see the brightness change immediately on the floodlight itself, or it is just not working.

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  • Heychristian
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    I am using non-camera Ring Floodlight Wired model number 5w21s8-a.
    1) can HS4 can turn off or dim to zero (or close to zero) a light, and keep off the lights, without using the Ring app to disable the Ring motion detection? It appears the PI does not allow one to toggle on/off Ring "Motion Detection"
    2) What is the "Brightness" HS device? When I move the slider, the brightness of the light does not change.
    The use case is to have the option keep the floodlights off, even if there is motion, without using the ring app to disable "Motion Detection".​
    thanks

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  • dcorsus
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    V1.0.0.10 just posted. Recommend you upgrade and then use the "delete all devices" to start from scratch

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  • jrhocker
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    Thanks for the feedback. I am looking forward to getting the alarm system and using the features in the next update. ​​​​​

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  • dcorsus
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    Originally posted by jrhocker View Post
    dcorsus ​​​​​My question to you is which Ring alarm base station are you using? I am thinking
    short-term to go with the Ring Alarm (2nd generation) base station​ and then upgrade the Ring Alarm base station down the road.
    There is a difference of what I have and what I use.

    I have 2 doorbells, 3 chimes and 2 floodlights that I've had for a few years and I wanted to get control over (especially turning the floodlights on when I want), so I began writing the plugin. Whilst I learned about these ring devices and was thinking about making this plugin available for others, I felt I needed to add control of alarm components from Ring as well, so I bought a Ring Alarm kit (Base stations, keypad, motion sensor, window/door sensor, range extender). So I have alarm components but I only use them to develop the functions of the plugin. Subsequently I bought some smart lighting components and a stickup Camera, purely for development purposes.

    One of the folks testing this plugin has an alarm pro and he was so kind to send me capture information so I learned about that Ring device that way, and added support as well.

    A few observations:

    1. I really like the simplicity of the Ring alarm component and I would seriously consider next time I need an alarm system to go that route and I wasn't aware you simply add professional monitoring to the capability by a few clicks on your Ring App.

    2. The Pro Alarm hub looks like quite the Swiss Army Knife, supporting a wide range of interface, besides the zwave interface for the sensors etc., as you stated, it has a wifi AP (eero 6), it natively can control Ring smart lighting and it has this ability to add additional batteries in a stacked fashion. All quite impressive. What I learned over the years, is that technology changes so rapidly, especially with WAPs, that if you buy a device that has a lot of functions crammed into one, the chance that constantly, one of those functions have changed and you want to upgrade them, now you're stuck (a bit). Secondly there is location of this device. if you have something that has z-wave, Wifi6 and whatever they use for the smart lighting (suspect zigbee), where do you put it to be central to all the different devices it supports? So I prefer to use dedicated devices (WAP, ZNET Controller..) and place them where they need to be, whilst keeping "controllers" more central and easily accessible. Counter arguing my own argument, if you live in a small(er) apartment or condo, a device like this might be exactly what you want

    Just my $0.02

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  • jrhocker
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    dcorsus This is probably off-topic.

    I have been thinking about your PI and its advantages over what I currently have and have decided to switch my security system to Ring. I currently have an eero Pro 6 as my gateway. If I switch to the Ring Alarm Pro Base Station with built-in eero Wi-Fi 6 router, it ​​​​​​​​​​appears to be only an eero 6 and not an eero pro 6 (which is a tri-band). From what I can tell, this is a step backwards for me and will limit my speed from today's performance.
    ​​​​​​​
    ​​​​​​​My question to you is which Ring alarm base station are you using? I am thinking
    short-term to go with the Ring Alarm (2nd generation) base station​ and then upgrade the Ring Alarm base station down the road.
    ​​​​​​​


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  • jrhocker
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    I think you have me covered and I'm onboard. Will be unavailable for a couple of weeks. I'll test it when I get back. Thanks.

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  • dcorsus
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    Originally posted by jrhocker View Post
    I have an existing security system now and didn't want to buy all new security devices to utilize the Ring alarm system.
    Ok, now I understand. In this case you would make an event (or virtual device + event) to set/disable motion detection on all relevant cameras to "arm" or "disarm" them.
    Close to releasing next version drop

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  • jrhocker
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    I have an existing security system now and didn't want to buy all new security devices to utilize the Ring alarm system. However, I may switch to the Ring alarm system down the road. It would be nice if it was all integrated.

    Alternatively, there is (or will be in next drop) a disable/enable motion detection options for each camera, I would think that would do the trick, no?
    Based on your description above, I think I can accomplish my wishes with the 'disable/enable' motion detection option in your next update. That sounds like a good way to go. I'll wait for the update and give it a try.

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  • dcorsus
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    Originally posted by jrhocker View Post

    Yes, I was hoping the PI could change the mode settings (Home, Away, Disarmed). I would use the HS4 event creation to detect if I leave/arrive home and then change the mode of the Ring inside Stick Up cameras. Or, if it's late at night and I am at home, I would use an HS4 event to change the mode via the Ring PI to set the cameras to 'Away' based on my sleep schedule and then, change the mode in the morning to 'Home' using the Ring PI.

    The bottom line, I would like for the PI to be able to be able to toggle the mode if needed. At least, that's my wishes. Thanks for considering.

    Attached are screenshots of how the Arlo app is able to do the same thing. I'm looking at HS4 to do the geofencing and scheduling rather that the way Arlo does it.

    See below...this is an example of an Arlo camera I have that is named 'Living Room':

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    Follow up question, why would you not use the "arm" status of the alarm, or perhaps you don't have an alarm system? If not armed or armed home, you would set the cameras not to record, not good? You would arm the alarm based on geofencing info, or time of day .....

    Alternatively, there is (or will be in next drop) a disable/enable motion detection options for each camera, I would think that would do the trick, no?
    I'm a bit reluctant to pursue what you are asking as it will explode quite a bit the amount of features per device not to mention a user may get lost in its own settings as you wouldn't easily see from your app that the mode settings have been changed (or are wrong).

    Thoughts?

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  • jrhocker
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    do you expect the PI can change these settings?
    Yes, I was hoping the PI could change the mode settings (Home, Away, Disarmed). I would use the HS4 event creation to detect if I leave/arrive home and then change the mode of the Ring inside Stick Up cameras. Or, if it's late at night and I am at home, I would use an HS4 event to change the mode via the Ring PI to set the cameras to 'Away' based on my sleep schedule and then, change the mode in the morning to 'Home' using the Ring PI.

    The bottom line, I would like for the PI to be able to be able to toggle the mode if needed. At least, that's my wishes. Thanks for considering.

    Attached are screenshots of how the Arlo app is able to do the same thing. I'm looking at HS4 to do the geofencing and scheduling rather that the way Arlo does it.

    See below...this is an example of an Arlo camera I have that is named 'Living Room':

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  • dcorsus
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    Originally posted by jrhocker View Post
    One feature that Ring does not appear to have that Arlo did have is the ability to arm the cameras in 'Away' mode when I leave the house via geo-fencing and Arlo also had the ability to have a schedule over-ride the geo-fencing rules during sleeping hours and arm the cameras. Arming the Stick Up cameras (Home, Away, Disarmed) appears to be a manual step in Ring.
    jrhocker maybe we're talking about different things, but noticed today , through the app, you can set what the cameras do in each mode (disarmed, armed home, armed away). If I go to device->(select your camera)->mode settings->disarmed->cameras->(select your camera) you can enable/disable motion detection and live views. Was it this you were looking for, or do you expect the PI can change these settings? Wouldn't setting motion disabled for all indoor cameras when the alarm is disarmed be all you need?

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  • jrhocker
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    These Stick Up cameras I bought are inside the house. That's why I want to use the mode (Home/Away). I'll never remember to set the mode to 'Away' when my wife and I leave and definitely want the cameras off when I'm at home and stirring around the house.

    I thought about buying the Ring Alarm Pro, but wasn't sure it was worth spending $250 for it. Maybe the Ring Alarm Pro allows the modes to be set via geo-fencing. Thanks for considering. Otherwise, everything on the plug in loaded smoothly.

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