Matter: Is there a HomeSeer technology roadmap or even a plan?

[KindaInControl]

To be more specific, their hub is now a Matter bridge and does the translation to devices like the FP2. The devices themselves (for now) will not be changing. You could use their hub today and talk to it via HomeKit and other methods.

Does anyone know if this HomeKit integration with the Aqara hub will support triggering HomeSeer events using the Aqara FP2 sensor's Zone Positioning functionality?

Here's how Aqara describes this functionality. It sounds like it has amazing potential for Events!

Now having said that, notice here that only Aqara Home has "Full function" listed, vs. the other hubs and ecosystems only supporting Precense/Presence Light... (So the question I have is if this Zone Positioning info will make it through to HomeSeer from Aqara Home.)

[Bigstevep]

You can already use and control Aqara motion sensors with MQTT. I use their P1 motion sensors and the FP1 sensors. I really like the Aqara P1 motion sensors as they are very configurable, fast and have two batteries so supposedly 5 years battery life. My oldest ones have been online for six months now and the batteries are still at 100% in high activity areas. Just make sure that you get the P1 variety and not the standard Aqara motion sensors as they have one battery and aren't configurable. You can also use a Hubitat hub with a community driver to set them up as well with the Hubitat plugin. I don't know about the FP2 as I don't have one.

[TC1]

Aqara is now Matter compliant - I would love to use HS as the control of Aqara sensors (FP2) - when do you plan to release the Matter support ?

To be more specific, their hub is now a Matter bridge and does the translation to devices like the FP2. The devices themselves (for now) will not be changing. You could use their hub today and talk to it via HomeKit and other methods.

[Jakob.Sand]

Aqara is now Matter compliant - I would love to use HS as the control of Aqara sensors (FP2) - when do you plan to release the Matter support ?

[pistacheL0]

My use case for matter would be to send any homeseer device to the matter network, so they would communicate locally with homekit and alexa

[JimSpy]

Matter is a protocol that sits on top of other devices and protocols in order to send all your data to the tech giants involved in its creation to provide better marketing data for targeted advertising... I mean interoperability.

I almost bought that....almost...

[wpiman]

Until you actually have product in hand, yes, it is vaporware. And the standard has already been formalized.

And all the folks here like myself that have been doing home automation for 20+ years are saying, people are acting like Matter is going to be the home automation savior that we've all been praying for... reality, once it gets here, might prove otherwise.

To be fair, it looks like it is riding on top of Zigbee... so it really is just an evolution, not anything particularly new.

[TC1]

I don't know that I'd call it 'vaporware'. Multiple manufacturers have/are releasing products that will be 'upgradable' to Matter (Schlage Connect + is one) once the standard is finalized. In talking to the manufacturers at CES and IBS it's obvious they are moving to Matter, it's just going to take a lot of time for it to gain a large market share.

Until you actually have product in hand, yes, it is vaporware. And the standard has already been formalized.

And all the folks here like myself that have been doing home automation for 20+ years are saying, people are acting like Matter is going to be the home automation savior that we've all been praying for... reality, once it gets here, might prove otherwise.

[MongoNash]

Zwave has become very reliable. Matter is vaporware.

I don't know that I'd call it 'vaporware'. Multiple manufacturers have/are releasing products that will be 'upgradable' to Matter (Schlage Connect + is one) once the standard is finalized. In talking to the manufacturers at CES and IBS it's obvious they are moving to Matter, it's just going to take a lot of time for it to gain a large market share.

[TC1]

Thread is a low-power, secure, and scalable networking protocol that is specifically designed for the IoT. It provides a mesh network that allows devices to communicate directly with each other, reducing the dependence on a central hub or gateway.

Hello, Zigbee is calling. They want their marketing materials back
Zigbee has been doing this for years, in both industrial and residential installations. I've got tiny Zigbee sensors that haven't had their battery replaced in about 2 years. And you do know that you can bind Zigbee devices directly to each other, bypassing a hub for control. And that Thread/Matter was based on the IEEE spec for Zigbee and grew from there.

As wpiman pointed out, many of us have very robust and capable home automation networks based on the tried-and-true standards that exist today, that have had over a decade to work out the kinks. The fact that some people have problems with implementation doesn't mean the standards don't work. If and when Matter reaches critical mass, that will be awesome. But until then, the rest of us will continue to grow out our home automation empires... as long as WAF remains high

[pistacheL0]

Yeah like a good presence sensor on thread directly on a device (with matter un top of the device) without a need to pass by a matter ready hub (aqara, philips hue)

[wpiman]

For some time now I was telling everyone here not to buy anything Z-wave. First, because Z-wave sucks and second it will be replaced by a better technology for IoT battery powered devices.

If you wait for the next "everything protocol", you will be waiting forever. Z-wave works extremely well for most people for most things. My biggest complain about it is it can take a long time to add stuff. Zigbee doesn't have this issue but uses the same spectrum space as everything else. I use both. They work great, especially if you use the latest version of the protocols.

It is a fact now that Matter uses Thread for that.

Matter uses a wireless technology called Thread to facilitate communication between IoT devices. Thread is a low-power, secure, and scalable networking protocol that is specifically designed for the IoT. It provides a mesh network that allows devices to communicate directly with each other, reducing the dependence on a central hub or gateway. This design makes it possible to create large networks of battery-operated IoT devices that can continue to operate even if some devices fail or are temporarily out of range. The use of Thread in Matter helps to ensure that IoT devices can communicate with each other efficiently and reliably, even in low-power and low-bandwidth scenarios

Both Zigbee and Z-wave do exactly the same thing. Thread calls their bridge a "border router" as opposed to a Gateway. Nothing really that revolutionary.

And you can buy Zigbee and Z-wave device today. There are billions of Zigbee devices deployed. How many thread devices have you deployed? In total?

It will probably take them a few generations of the spec to work out all the kinks...

My advice, buy stuff now and if something truly revolutionary comes out, replace.

[risquare]

For some time now I was telling everyone here not to buy anything Z-wave. First, because Z-wave sucks and second it will be replaced by a better technology for IoT battery powered devices.

It is a fact now that Matter uses Thread for that.

Matter uses a wireless technology called Thread to facilitate communication between IoT devices. Thread is a low-power, secure, and scalable networking protocol that is specifically designed for the IoT. It provides a mesh network that allows devices to communicate directly with each other, reducing the dependence on a central hub or gateway. This design makes it possible to create large networks of battery-operated IoT devices that can continue to operate even if some devices fail or are temporarily out of range. The use of Thread in Matter helps to ensure that IoT devices can communicate with each other efficiently and reliably, even in low-power and low-bandwidth scenarios.

[happnatious1]

Matter is a protocol that sits on top of other devices and protocols in order to send all your data to the tech giants involved in its creation to provide better marketing data for targeted advertising... I mean interoperability.

[JimSpy]

All joking aside (for the moment), I still don't really understand what Matter actually represents. Is it a completely new technology platform, or just a standard protocol that can be built onto other platforms, a programming language for the IoT...If it's a whole new technology that all new Smart Home devices will have to adhere to, how do the various manufacturers distinguish their product lines? Physical design and styling? I'm not a real techy type, so I'm a little befuddled.