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    2 or 3 linked Insteon switches

    Hello,

    so I have 2 Insteon light switches controlling the same light. I have set them both up with the plug-in and can turn both switches on and off independently. One of them controls the light on and off. The other turns on and off but does not control the light. Is there a way to link both switches so they both control the light? The two devices are linked together meaning when I turn one on the other turns on or off when I manually click the switch on either switch. But when I use the HomeSeer app it only works on one of the devices.

    I hope that makes sense.

    scott

    #2
    if you enable the sync linked responder devices setting on both devices, it will help keep both devices in sync

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    Mark

    HS3 Pro 3.0.0.534
    Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway
    Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 (by Kirby) | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | NetCAM | MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Jon00 Charting
    Platform: HP h8-1360t, Windows Server 2012 R2, i7-3.4GHz, 16GB memory

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      #3
      The additional step besides enabling Sync Linked Responder Devices that I found helped was making all of the involved switches both responders and controllers. Initially in a four-switch setup I had "Switch A" that controlled the electrical load to the light be only a responder and the other three switches I wanted turning that light on and off be controllers of Switch A. Then I created cross-links so Switch A controlled Switch B and Switch C and Switch D. Switch B controlled Switch A and Switch C and Switch D. Switch C controlled Switch A and Switch B and Switch D. Switch D controlled Switch A and Switch B and Switch C. If a KPL was involved, that the button I wanted controlling the light was included in all the cross-links as a controller and responder. Initially I did it one at a time for a set of switches controlling a light, but was a fair amount of work and accidentally created some duplicate links. So I deleted all links between all the switches, then when beginning to create the new links checked off "Cross Link Devices", which cut the setup work in half.

      Maybe all of this isn't necessary for everyone, but until I did it I found inconsistent responses. Once all the cross links were in place (and I'd restarted HS4 for good measure) the result was what I think all of us are looking for: Turning one switch on or off (using any of the four wall switches or any of the four devices in the HomeSeer web interface or the mobile app) shows the correct status on each of the other wall switches AND on each of the devices in HomeSeer and the mobile app. Main difference between HS and my admittedly fading memory of the Insteon app is that there's a definite delay of several seconds with HS when several devices are involved in an on/off change. I understand that using Groups can reduce this delay, but haven't gotten around to setting that up yet.......

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        #4
        the " Sync Linked Responder Devices" sends individual commands (just to sync the physical switches and hs device) which is slower than using a group to turn on all the linked devices at once
        Mark

        HS3 Pro 3.0.0.534
        Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway
        Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 (by Kirby) | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | NetCAM | MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Jon00 Charting
        Platform: HP h8-1360t, Windows Server 2012 R2, i7-3.4GHz, 16GB memory

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          #5
          The alternate to creating direct individual links and "Sync Linked Responder Devices" is to create a Group for each Controller device you have in the multi-way switch. This approach is more similar to how this situation would have been setup using the Insteon app using one or more Scenes.

          I have a 3-switch (4-way) configuration for my Entry Lights, and I've labeled my switches as Entry Lightswitch 1-Main (this is the load switch), Entry Lightswitch 2, and Entry Lightswitch 3. I've created (3) MNS Insteon Groups (Entry Lights, Entry Lights 2, and Entry Lights 3), each Group uses one of the switches as a Controller. This 3-Group configuration creates all of the local links required to keep things in sync when physically pressing the switches.

          For virtual/remote control, I use the Entry Lights Group, and I review/motor Entry Lightswitch 1-Main to determine if the lights are actually On or Off. I have hidden the other Groups in HS4/HSMobile.

          In the Insteon App, this could have been developed with one Scene (with all (3) switches being Both Controller/Responder), but due to the current limitations of MNS Insteon, only one Controller can be assigned per Group.

          Pros with this approach -
          • Fast/instant response from the switches and the load, especially during local control.
          • Only need to manage 3 Groups instead of (6) cross links spread across (3) devices. Individual link management can become a bit cumbersome if you have many devices you're trying to sync.
          Cons with this approach -
          • Group Controllers have a status in HS4 - you have to kind of ignore this, because depending on which switch was physically pressed last, the GC status will drop out of sync. (Insteon Scenes did not have a status, they only sent commands, so this 'feature' of MNS Groups is different)
          • Using one of the HS4 device switches virtually will cause it to fall out of sync with the other switches in the multi-way. It also won't turn off the controlled lights unless it's the switch that's actually on the Load.
          • Have to create and manage (3) Groups.

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