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**Ultrajones** · January 26, 2016, 06:57 PM

The purpose of the IP Subnets tab was to reflect what ICMP ping found connected to your network and what DNS, ARP and other queries indicated the devices were. I need more time to think about this issue to determine if this is indeed a bug. I'll try to duplicate the issue you reported before I attempt to "fix" anything

Regards,
Ultrajones

**Ultrajones** · January 26, 2016, 08:16 PM

Hello Ken, I am unable to duplicate this issue. However, I think the issue you described may have been a bug in the previous version. What version of the plug-in are you running?

Regards,
Ultrajones

**Kaje** · January 26, 2016, 09:08 PM

I believe I am running the latest version 3.0.5850.31186.

This has been an issue for me for awhile (several versions) I just haven't had time to report it.

Ken J.

**Ultrajones** · January 26, 2016, 09:08 PM

I had time to really dig into the code to determine the purpose of the host type field. It looks like the plug-in only uses it to initially create the HomeSeer device type graphic status/pairs and is not used for any other purpose. If the device never changes IP address, the device type will always remain intact. I'll need to figure out how to keep a mapping between the mac address and the device type you select in the IP Subnet web page. I'll do this sometime this week.

Regards,
Ultrajones

**Kaje** · January 27, 2016, 09:50 AM

Ultra,
Thanks for looking into it. But just to be clear the 'Host Tagging' resetting to unknown is less of an issue to me (since the HS device keeps it tagged properly it is just an annoyance) than the fact the cycle appears to default the device to be identified as a Non-Monitored IP Address and triggers the email warning.

Not sure if the two are related, just giving you my observations.

And if you are really going to get into the code this weekend I have two other requests:
1. In 'Device Types' can you make it so that it points to a different folder for images? Every time you update UltraMon it over writes the /html/images/hspi_ultramon3 folder and I have to copy my unique icons over time (if I remember).
2. Some way to turn off 'Discovered Host E-Mail Notifications' via a HS event. I live in a rural area (aka no cellular service for some carriers) and my wifi is open for when guests are here. I would like to turn off the E-mail notification when my 'party' flag is thrown and back on when it turns off.

Again, love your plug-ins (I have UltraECM3, UltraGCIR3, UltraMon3, UltraNetatmo3, and UltraWeatherWU3)

Thanks,
Ken J.

**gregoryx** · February 24, 2016, 02:16 PM

I've seen the same thing with the host type the whole (few months) time that I've been using the plugin. I figured it wasn't a big deal; but it is a bit annoying in terms of when I scan through the list to determine what I've already categorized / checked versus what's new.

I find most strange that some will drop and others will not. It seems to me that they should "stick" at least in the Devices tab where I've done the labeling.

I'm also unclear how to remove something that I labeled in the past. A retired device doesn't seem to be removable from the Devices list?

**cerjzc** · February 28, 2016, 04:37 PM

Just wanted to comment that I had this happen just this week. One of my devices that I trigger on called "Garage Backyard" was no longer known by the plugin. The event that triggered off of it was there with the correct name, but the device in Ultramon was gone. I'm not sure when exactly it happened because I just noticed it wasn't there when the event to reset the camera didn't work after the camera stopped responding today. So I have added it back in and will try to keep an eye for it happening again. I am running the current version of Ultramon from the updater.

Thanks,
Jeff

**edwilloughby** · February 29, 2016, 10:48 AM

Error

This started last night around midnight No idea what went wrong.

Thanks
Ed

Feb-29 10:52:52 AM 1 Error System.InvalidOperationException: Nullable object must have a value. at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowInvalidOperationException(ExceptionR esource resource) at System.Nullable`1.get_Value() at HSPI_ULTRAWEATHERWU3.hspi_plugin.GetLiveWeather(String strStationNumber)
Feb-29 10:52:52 AM 1 Error System.InvalidOperationException
Feb-29 10:50:51 AM 1 Error System.InvalidOperationException: Nullable object must have a value. at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowInvalidOperationException(ExceptionR esource resource) at System.Nullable`1.get_Value() at HSPI_ULTRAWEATHERWU3.hspi_plugin.GetLiveWeather(String strStationNumber)
Feb-29 10:50:51 AM 1 Error System.InvalidOperationException

**Ultrajones** · March 7, 2016, 10:24 PM

I redesigned the plug-in to deal with the dropping of device types in the IP Subnet tab. Please download and install UltraMon3 HSPI version 3.0.5909.21768 to see if it solves the issue reported.

Regards,
Ultrajones

**Kaje** · March 9, 2016, 03:55 PM

Ultra,
Just spotted this update...downloaded and installed.

First positive comment is it did not overwrite the user created icons...which is a great thing. Not sure if that was a deliberate fix on this release or not but I'm going to give you credit.

Second positive comment is I have done a couple of tests (recovering a device, new device) and all seems to be as expected!

Will update on any findings.

Thanks!
Ken J.

**Kaje** · March 22, 2016, 09:58 AM

Ultra,
Here is the situation:
1. If the device is completely new to the network:

a. I get an email notification (Non-Monitored IP Address On Network)

b. I can jump into the "IP Subnets" tab in UltraMon3, edit and add the device to HS as expected.

2. If the device has been 'touched' on the network previously ('touched' as in UltraMon recognized it as new device a few UltraMon versions previously, and then the issue that caused this thread happened and made it go away).

a. I do not get any email notification (even though it is not a HS device, UltraMon Device, or shows up on UltraMon IP Subnets)

b. If I manually go to enter it in the UltraMon IP Subnets page:

i. It shows up on IP Subnets page as recovered only while in that specific session
ii. It creates a HS device...but the HS device shows Unknown and never changes.
iii. It never shows up in UltraMon Devices
iv. I examined the "ultramon3.xml" file and it shows no change (just shows the device as "<host_monitored>false</host_monitored>")

Bottom line is I'm looking for your thoughts...
A. I really don't want to uninstall and blow away the Ultramon config and re-install unless I absolutely have to (I have over 90 network devices that I don't want to recreate...HS, HSTouch, etc.)

B. I think I can do the following:

1. manually create the device in UltraMon IP Subnets so a HS device is created.
2. manually edit the "ultramon3.xml" for that device
(will this work??)

C. I am one version behind in HS3 (my thought is not to introduce the latest version with echo into the variable)...but were any of the non-Echo fixes important to Ultramon?

Thanks,
Ken J.

HS3 Pro Edition 3.0.0.208 (Windows); UltraMon3 3.0.5920.33913

**Kaje** · April 3, 2016, 09:47 PM

Ultra,
Bump.

Looking to see if you can repeat the issue I described or your opinion on what I should do.

Thx,
Ken J.

**Ultrajones** · April 9, 2016, 07:41 AM

Hello,

Uninstalling the plug-in won't solve the issue you're reporting, so please don't do that

Editing the xml file won't help. The version of HomeSeer does not matter either.

I read your post a few times, but I just don't understand it enough to be able to duplicate it. I don't understand what you mean by a devices has been touched.

If a devices is not changing state, then the device address (which is the device MAC) is not found on the network. Can you confirm the device address for the one that never changes state has the proper MAC address for the device you're attempting to monitor?

Regards,
Ultrajones

**Kaje** · April 10, 2016, 02:52 AM

Ultra,

Let me give you a specific example...my Netatmo unit:
a. Device is deleted from HS Devices and is not in Ultramon.
b. I get a notice of "Non-Monitored IP Address On Network" whenever it 'phones home'. Says the MAC is 70-EE-50-12-5B-F6 and I can confirm it in my router.
c. since it's 'phone home' is short in duration when I get to the 'IP Subnets' tab of UltraMon3 it is not there.
d. So I do a manual entry from the 'IP Subnets' tab and create a HS device with that MAC and IP.
e. It is on the 'IP Subnets' page when I am done.
f. I click onto HS devices and I see that the device is created.
g. I click back to the 'IP Subnets' page and it is GONE.
h. HS device still exists but it will never register any action and I get the "Non-Monitored" notices.
i. I peak into the 'ultramon3.xml' and it shows it as <host_monitored>false</host_monitored>; <mac_addr> is blank; <host_type>Unknown</host_type>

And again this is relative to devices that were previously found/created by the earlier UltraMon3. Brand new spanking devices seem to have no issue in being created.

Ken J.

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