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  • b_weijenberg
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    Robert, there is also an option to use the Sonoff 4CH Pro R2 to control up to 3 zones with each Sonoff and control this with a RFXCOM RFXtrx433/E/XL.
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SONO...916132713.html
    As the 433MHz RF is a one way communication there is no feed back but it has proven to be a reliable solution for 2 years now in my garden and never failed. By adding some sensors you can measure the soil humidity or water supplied.

    The Opus300/Imagintronix soil sensors are supported. Maximum 3 Opus300/Imagintronix sensors can be used as the sensor has only 3 channels.
    http://www.plantcaretools.com/produc...isture-sensor/

    To know if and how much water is supplied use a rain sensor which can also be received by the RFXCOM, for example:
    Oregon PCR800, RGR126N, TFA 30.3148, Alecto WS1200,

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  • langenet
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    Thanks Michael!

    So many options now...

    Robert

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  • Michael McSharry
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    I wonder if there's a network device I could just add to control one zone?... Anyone know?
    The Sonoff's are WiFi network connected. 4 channels per module @ $30/module. Also 1 channel at $7, but single channel needs a hardware hack to remove the mains from the relay. mcsTasmota firmware turns them into irrigation relay that are able to run their own program as a backup when slaved to mcsSprinklers.

    The Odroid C1 and Raspberry Pi has ability to interface 26 relays and I have seen 16 channel relay boards for under $15. mcsSprinklers will run in the RPi/C1 or the RPi/C1 could run program that emulates Sonoff (i.e responds to MQTT messages) and let mcsSprinklers run in another computer.

    When I needed an additional zone for a scarecrow I used an UPB appliance module that turned on/off a 120V relay with contacts connected to the 24VAC irrigation valve. The same approach can be used with any lighting technology. There may be wired network relay, but I have not seen a dominant one to use for mcsSprinklers.

    The recently added GoControl has 15 zones and HST sells them for $60. This is Zwave, only works under HS3 and does not provide status of a relay being on or off, but is the cheapest @ $4/relay that I have seen.

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  • Pete
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    Here many years ago transitioned from a Rainbird ESP to mcsSprinklers with 2 Rain8Nets for 10 zones. Gutted the Rainbird box and installed two Rain8Nets inside of it running one long serial cable (cat5e with baluns) to the Homeseer 2 box. Run was ~ 150 feet or so.

    Over the years went to install mcsSprinklers on a small footprint Seagate Dockstart with Dockstar Debian and Mono with a POE Gb connection to the Seagate Dockstar. It all fit just fine inside of the Rainbird box. I used the cat5e I ran for the serial link and made it a POE Gb wire.

    You can do the same today using an RPi to run mcsSprinklers remotely or locally talking to two Rain8Nets.

    For the EtherRain 8 you could also purchase a network one to two splitter which would work fine but is not recommended over the use of a small switch.

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  • Mountainman
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    Yes, you would need two units as there are 8 zones per unit for the EtherRain 8. You would also need two network connections.

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  • langenet
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    So if you have 9 zones as I do, I would need to buy 2 units then? - much like I have with Rain8Nets... Wish there was a 12 zone unit or something like that.
    While I don't need to replace my Rain8Nets as they work perfectly now, it would be nice to know of an upgrade path should they die...

    I wonder if there's a network device I could just add to control one zone?... Anyone know?

    Robert

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  • Mountainman
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    Originally posted by Michael McSharry View Post
    Sounds good. Until I update mcsSprinklers to Rec C firmware you will be able to control one zone at a time.
    I just purchased two of the EtherRain 8 products. I told Jim that you might be willing to create the software to support operation of multiple valves at once as I would like to do this. He said he would send a unit to you with the latest firmware. So, you should get one with the latest firmware any day now.

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  • Michael McSharry
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    Sounds good. Until I update mcsSprinklers to Rec C firmware you will be able to control one zone at a time. May be sufficient in the long term or at least in the near term for you.

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  • cerjzc
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    Michael,

    As an update I spoke with Jim at quicksmart and he sent me the instructions on "converting" my ER-8 to the ER-7P. So it sounds like I wouldn't have to send it back anyway and since I only need the 7 zones I should be able to switch it over to the ER-7P and if that will work directly with mcsSprinklers I will go ahead and do that and see about getting it installed tomorrow.

    He has been very prompt with answering questions and getting the device shipped to me, so far I have been very impressed.

    Thanks,
    Jeff

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  • Mr_Resistor
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    Originally posted by cerjzc View Post
    Michael,

    Thanks for the response. I did get a Rev C model built this month. If that is something you plan on adding soon I might hold onto it. If not I had thought about using a secondary device to power/control the Master valve, but it sounds like it would probably be easier to just return the 8 and get the 7P if that for sure will already work.

    Thanks,
    Jeff
    I can vouch for EtherRain paired with the mcsSprinklers. Incredible flexibility and extremely stable from a hardware/communication perspective. And having the ability/flexibility to run separate cycles independent from either mcsSprinkerlers or HomeSeer is super helpful.

    Solid choice. Mine have been running brilliantly for several years (knock wood). Both Jim and Michael have solid products and stand behind them.

    Just my .02

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  • Michael McSharry
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    Your choice. Jim is sending me a Rev C model so I should have mcsSprinkler updated in a week or so.

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  • cerjzc
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    Michael,

    Thanks for the response. I did get a Rev C model built this month. If that is something you plan on adding soon I might hold onto it. If not I had thought about using a secondary device to power/control the Master valve, but it sounds like it would probably be easier to just return the 8 and get the 7P if that for sure will already work.

    Thanks,
    Jeff

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  • Michael McSharry
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    There is a Rev C of the EtherRain firmware that I expect to get working with mcsSprinklers. This will provide ability to run simultaneous relays from one module. Prior firmware is limited to a single relay at a time. I do not know if you can get the older units upgraded with Rev C firmware.

    The 7P will work with mcsSprinklers. McsSprinklers is agnostic to the pump valve as it is managed by the EtherRain and will be slaved to the other relays. mcsSprinklers will manage the 7 zone relays.

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  • cerjzc
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    Michael,

    I had a chance to open up my ancient irrigation controller and it turns out it appears to have a Master Valve. If I understand correctly from some of your previous posts the Etherrain 8 will not work because it can only turn on one valve at a time is that correct? So I wouldn't be able to program valve 8 as the master and have it turn on when the other 7 were running.

    Does the Etherrain 7P work with mcssprinklers and allow the use of the pump/master connection to do what I need or will I need to continue to look at other alternatives.

    Thanks,
    Jeff

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  • Michael McSharry
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    I added the GoControl to one of the controller supported by mcsSprinklers in version 2.18.2.0. It is uploaded to Updater, but not certain if it will be visible with HST transitioning how 3rd party plugins are managed.

    Manual install is from http://mcsSprinklers.com/mcsSprinkle...18_2_0_HS3.zip Unzip and extract HSPI_mcsSprinklersP.exe and mcsSprinklers_2009.dll into HS3 folder.

    When I was testing I did not see any effect when the HS3 device for enable/disable was toggled. Able to run the relay without consideration for the enable device.

    Each module that is added to mcsSprinklers will create 15 mcsSprinklers devices and they will be controlled just as all other mcsSprinklers devices. No status is available so it is a send command and hope the Zwave receiver in the GoControl gets it. This is similiar to the level of assurance from 1-way X10 as the original Rain8X10.

    mcsSprinklers will sync to external changes made by HS events or GUI, but does not honor the times that are sent externally. For example if 60 minutes for a valve is selected in HS and mcsSprinklers has this valve setup to have a maximum manual run time of 40 minutes then mcsSprinklers will command the valve OFF after 40 minutes.

    I don't recall if HS sends event notification when its programmed time is over or only when the GoControl device is altered. I suspect only when altered. This means that if mcsSprinklers has manual set for 40 minutes and HS commands it for 20 minutes then mcsSprinlers will assume it will be running for the full 40 minutes and send the OFF at 40 minutes.

    In general if one stays within mcsSprinklers environment for valve control then there will be no issues. Note also that only one GoControl valve per module can be ON at a time. While I have logic in EtherRain to enforce the scheduling, I did not add it to GoControl.

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