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**Pete** · September 27, 2011, 08:14 PM

Use an X10 remote FOB or palm pad to test it.

I ended up purchasing another one when mine went out. I sent it in to WGL and I was told it was fine; and it wasn't.

**pbibm** · September 27, 2011, 08:22 PM

Instead of using HT to type to the w800, set off an rfdevice to see of characters come across. You should get a stream of 6 -8 charcters. They should be the same each time. do it from the same room so there is no doubt about signal. Try several devices to eliminate them.

Contract WGL about it if its dead. I dont know if he can do a cheap swap or refresh of it.

**TeleFragger** · September 27, 2011, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by pbibm View Post

Instead of using HT to type to the w800, set off an rfdevice to see of characters come across. You should get a stream of 6 -8 charcters. They should be the same each time. do it from the same room so there is no doubt about signal. Try several devices to eliminate them.

Contract WGL about it if its dead. I dont know if he can do a cheap swap or refresh of it.

well i tried this with a palm pad, ms14a, ds10a....

all to no avail...

ok.. so she is caput...

soooooooo i see i can buy one from wgl for $60 for just the unit.. no cables, power or anything....
rfxcom is closer to 100 after $80 for it... plus shipping and paypal fees....

**pbibm** · September 27, 2011, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by TeleFragger View Post

well i tried this with a palm pad, ms14a, ds10a....

all to no avail...

ok.. so she is caput...

soooooooo i see i can buy one from wgl for $60 for just the unit.. no cables, power or anything....
rfxcom is closer to 100 after $80 for it... plus shipping and paypal fees....

To do it over again I would look at the rfxcom.. it has some additional capabilities that I sometimes wish I had.

**TeleFragger** · September 27, 2011, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by pbibm View Post

To do it over again I would look at the rfxcom.. it has some additional capabilities that I sometimes wish I had.

like?
im ready to order...

i have to quit for the night.. now im getting mad.. and that doesnt happen often..

since my concord 4 alarm controls an event for turning the garage light on.. that has been 100%... while on usb to serial... now that i just stuck it into a serial card.. it is hit or miss.. and getting me mad...

sheeze... so i have a few issues going on now.. not sure why.. so easy.. hs logs even says garage door open.. running event.. garage lights on but they are not on!!!!!!! i then close the door open again and then on... do that 3 times and works each time.. 4th time nope....

**Wadenut** · September 27, 2011, 09:27 PM

Before you spend $ on the RFXCom slave card, you should remember that it has a notch filter on the RF input. Most X10 RF stuff (if not all) in North America isn't all that well tuned and thus, generally a bit off frequency to one side or the other. This makes for quite a bit of unreliability. The W800 isn't quite so particular making it appear to be more reliable.
Could your antenna or cable to it have a loose connection?

**pbibm** · September 27, 2011, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by TeleFragger View Post

like?

They can be two band and there are other devices like weather stations that can communicate wirelessly. And I while I like WGL products, I think the RFXComm is a little more industrial strength. That's my opinion observing posts over the last few years.

It seems like between the wgl800s and x10 sprinkler controllers, they seem to go out (like now) and the response i see is to keep spares. So get two w800s for when this happens to you again, or 1 RFXcom?

Paul

EDIT: Wasn't aware of wades comment but good point.

**TeleFragger** · September 27, 2011, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Wadenut View Post

Before you spend $ on the RFXCom slave card, you should remember that it has a notch filter on the RF input. Most X10 RF stuff (if not all) in North America isn't all that well tuned and thus, generally a bit off frequency to one side or the other. This makes for quite a bit of unreliability. The W800 isn't quite so particular making it appear to be more reliable.
Could your antenna or cable to it have a loose connection?

does it need the antennea even attached for homeseer to see it using a comm port?
it doesnt see it....

**Pete** · September 27, 2011, 10:54 PM

Probably not if you are next to it; but I never tried. Put a small piece of wire in the center terminal; should work well enough for a test.

Try checking the power supply or swapping it with another power supply. That was the first sign of mine acting up. I would just unplug the PS and plug it back in. It would come back to life for a little bit.

BTW; if you go to Homeseer; diable the plugin and re-enable the plugin; you can see it communicating. It will error out if its not talking to Homeseer. Then if it is; turn up the debug; and try your wireless again. You will see all kinds of traffic if its working.

**TeleFragger** · September 28, 2011, 04:46 AM

Pete.. that is my problem.. it isnt that im not seeing traffic...
if i try and enable the plugin...

9/28/2011 5:45:00 AM AC-RF2 Processor AC-RF2 Processor Plugin Version Release 1.1.3226.27426 Has Registered. Plugin Copyright (c) 2008 - AutomationCraft, LLC.
9/28/2011 5:45:00 AM Plug-In Initializing Plug-in: AC-RF2 Processor
9/28/2011 5:45:00 AM AC-RF2 Processor Device #1 Initializing - (W800RF32 receiver on Com 11)
9/28/2011 5:45:02 AM AC-RF2 Processor Warning: The RF receiver could not be located on Com 11, check device and port settings. 11
9/28/2011 5:45:02 AM AC-RF2 Processor No receivers were able to be initialized. Please select 'configure' from HomeSeer's Setup/Interfaces tab and select the com port and correct device.
9/28/2011 5:45:02 AM AC-RF2 Processor ** An error occurred in this plug-in. The details have been written to the log file - C:\Program Files\HomeSeer HS2\Config\AC-RF2 Processor Error Report.Log
9/28/2011 5:45:02 AM AC-RF2 Processor ** To request help with this problem please email the log file along with a detailed description of what
9/28/2011 5:45:02 AM AC-RF2 Processor ** lead to this problem to technical support.
9/28/2011 5:45:02 AM Warning 'status' property on device ACRF2 Plugin ACRF2 Device Monitor was accessed - this property has been deprecated and should not be used.
9/28/2011 5:45:03 AM Plug-In Finished initializing plug-in AC-RF2 Processor

**Wadenut** · September 28, 2011, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by TeleFragger View Post

does it need the antennea even attached for homeseer to see it using a comm port?
it doesnt see it....

Just call me R__p. It was quite late.
I'll stand by the other bit though. I've tried an RFX for motion/palmpads/DS10s. Some devices worked; most didn't. There was talk of removing the notch filter on the receiver at one time. If that's been done, then by all means - RFX is the way to go.

**TeleFragger** · September 28, 2011, 06:32 AM

well if all goes through.. ill be getting a w800 for $35 plus shipping..
so will let you know..

if not.. still on the fence.. depends on the total price of the rfx and how long to get it...

this is my hobby where frankly the motion hasnt really been working so wife dont really care about it.. and my play account is depleted...

however the oddest thing about all this is before i chose to go back to card based serial... my palm pad was working just fine with turning the lights on and off.. making me think my w800 was fine.. but oh well.. my luck it most likely finally died...

**TeleFragger** · September 28, 2011, 08:04 AM

here is an odd question...

i know i bought one of those power strips with the dc lines on it... and the w800 was plugged into that... could the dc volts be up to high and just over time fried it? or would just too much power fry it off the bat and go from there?

when i get a replacement i will move away from the dc power strip for that unit...

**TeleFragger** · September 29, 2011, 02:25 PM

wow
2:57PM purchase through WGL
3:11PM Your package from WGL & Associates is on its way.

now that is what i call speedy service!!!!!!!

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