Compose Scene Detection

[Richfd]

Anything on Compose scene detection.

[Rick Tinker]

You're definitely going to have to give us more than that to go on. I cannot even guess as to what you are asking!

Please elaborate.

Thanks.

[Richfd]

Sorry, Is any work being done on a new plugin for Lightolier Compose That will work with Room masters and whole house masters?

[Rick Tinker]

I am completely in the dark on room masters and house masters. Are these some sort of replacement for the firewall device?

As far as I know, they would have to change the Compose protocol for the plug-in to NOT work with these things.

Any additional info on these 'masters' would be appreciated.

[Richfd]

There are two types of keypads for scene creation CP series keypads are for scenes within one room. all switches within the room are set to the same address. CM series key pads are for scenes through out the whole house and can control any device or number of device throughout the house See the lightolier website for more details. http://lolcontrols.com/ Although the compose plugin will work with the CP room keypad I don't know how to create a CM keypad device in homeseer.

[Rick Tinker]

OK, now I fully understand your question.

I think there is a misunderstanding about how Compose works. The CP keypads are transmitters, and the CM keypads are transmitters. The difference is that, as you know, CP keypads send out commands for devices within an area or house code and CM can do many different devices.

Technically, the fact that you can create a device to mimick a CP keypad is due only to the fact that they consist of a single device address. Normally, it is the individual load control devices that you are controlling, and the creation of a single device that you are calling a CP keypad is merely a collection of signals driven by the plug-in to be more understandable.

So let me get right to the gist of what I am saying and perhaps it will be easier:

If I have a device controlling a chandelier at address C2, then pressing the right button on a CP keypad will generate signals such as C Preset Dim 1, C Preset Dim2 31, and C Preset Dim2 17. This is a series of command/responses - I tell the device to turn on, it responds when it reaches the ON state that it is now ON. I can send those in HomeSeer as individual X-10 commands, or I can create a Compose device at address C2 and set it to ON and the same thing will happen.

A CM keypad is like a "macro" in that it is like several CP keypads in one.

Here is an example of what transpired over the powerline when I hit the ON button on a CM keypad, and then a few seconds later hit the OFF button on the same keypad:

9/4/2004 4:18:16 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C2 (UnKnown C2) C Preset Dim 1
9/4/2004 4:18:17 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C2 (UnKnown C2) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:18 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C2 (UnKnown C2) C Preset Dim2 17
9/4/2004 4:18:19 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C3 (UnKnown C3) C Preset Dim 1
9/4/2004 4:18:20 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C3 (UnKnown C3) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:20 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C3 (UnKnown C3) C Preset Dim2 17
9/4/2004 4:18:21 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C4 (?) C Preset Dim 1
9/4/2004 4:18:22 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C4 (?) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:23 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C4 (?) C Preset Dim2 17
9/4/2004 4:18:24 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C1 (UnKnown C1) C Preset Dim 1
9/4/2004 4:18:25 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C1 (UnKnown C1) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:26 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C1 (UnKnown C1) C Preset Dim2 17
9/4/2004 4:18:40 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C2 (UnKnown C2) C Preset Dim 0
9/4/2004 4:18:41 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C2 (UnKnown C2) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:42 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C2 (UnKnown C2) C Preset Dim2 16
9/4/2004 4:18:43 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C3 (UnKnown C3) C Preset Dim 0
9/4/2004 4:18:43 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C3 (UnKnown C3) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:44 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C3 (UnKnown C3) C Preset Dim2 16
9/4/2004 4:18:45 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C4 (?) C Preset Dim 0
9/4/2004 4:18:46 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C4 (?) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:47 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C4 (?) C Preset Dim2 16
9/4/2004 4:18:48 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C1 (UnKnown C1) C Preset Dim 0
9/4/2004 4:18:49 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C1 (UnKnown C1) C Preset Dim2 31
9/4/2004 4:18:50 PM~!~X10 Received~!~C1 (UnKnown C1) C Preset Dim2 16


As you can see, it is nothing more than a series of X-10 powerline commands issued to several devices instead of a single one.

In HomeSeer, you can duplicate this by simply controlling several of your CP devices in a single event, or by issuing several specific X-10 signals on different house codes through the X-10 action.

Does that make sense? A single HomeSeer event with actions on several CP devices is the same as what a CM keypad does. There is thus no reason to try to duplicate the functionality of a CM keypad in HomeSeer as you can already do it.

[Richfd]

Thank you, sorry for the confusion. I'll try that.