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  • JimSpy
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    on/off switches support fast on and fast off as well.
    did not know this...need to come here more often!

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  • mnsandler
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    Originally posted by amr42 View Post

    and Voila! The Error Report now magically has the details from last night... Atatched
    I have not been able to reproduce this error. I setup a similar event with a bunch of Device Off commands. I think there is something else in your device configuration that i'm not seeing.

    I can post another beta with some more debugging log entries if necessary

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  • Burrington
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    The switches and dimmers support fast on from the point of view of sending a different code whether you single-click or double-click the paddle (on or off). Turning the load on is local to the switch, so when you tap the paddle, the load goes on at the pre-set ramp rate (dimmers). If you double-tap the paddle, the load goes on at the fastest rate. So, that doesn't work for what you want on your vent fans. What I've done for that is set up an event triggered by Insteon Special Trigger "Transmits an On Command", which turns the switch off. So if someone accidently hits the paddle and turns your fan on, the event immediately shuts it off again. There is a slight blip on between pushing the paddle and the event shutting it off again, but at least it doesn't run at length when not wanted.

    One of the most useful features of the Insteon Special Triggers "Transmits an xx Command", is that the event will trigger regardless of the current switch condition. So even if the switch is already ON, and you tap the ON paddle, the event will trigger. The regular HS triggers only work if the switch status changes. For example, if the switch is ON and you tap the ON paddle, the event won't trigger unless you tap OFF and then ON again. The Insteon Special Triggers overcome that.

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  • mnsandler
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    on/off switches support fast on and fast off as well.

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  • amr42
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    double tap does produce a Fast On or Off trigger. very convenient to trigger another event. i use it to turn off all the lights in a given room.

    i use the special triggers exclusively. they are faster to trigger events since the plugin seems them before hs sees a status change.
    Ah... Curious, but related question. Do the Insteon Switches (not dimmers) support Fast ON. I have timers on vent fans that might benefit from only being enabled with a double tap...

    Thanks,
    Andrew

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  • mnsandler
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    double tap does produce a Fast On or Off trigger. very convenient to trigger another event. i use it to turn off all the lights in a given room.

    i use the special triggers exclusively. they are faster to trigger events since the plugin seems them before hs sees a status change.

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  • amr42
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    how about creating one Insteon Group to turn all those devices Off at once instead of a bunch of individual commands. this would be faster and more reliable.
    OK, did that. WIll monitor. Thx

    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    as for the insteon special triggers, there is a select item after the standard hs triggers when you start a new trigger
    OK, numpty me, I found it. So other than when HS events don't let you trigger off Button A on a keypad ON, when would you use these instead of generic triggers? I presume a Fast On is a double tap On, correct?

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  • mnsandler
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    how about creating one Insteon Group to turn all those devices Off at once instead of a bunch of individual commands. this would be faster and more reliable.

    as for the insteon special triggers, there is a select item after the standard hs triggers when you start a new trigger

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  • amr42
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    There is something going on with the kitchen lights specifically (of 2)...(of 5) when they are trying to be turned Off.

    (1) what triggers this?
    Same event as before, except I thought it was the Special Op Flag settings. Here is the event details above the Special Op stuff:

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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    (2) do the switches get turned off correctly despite the error?
    YUP. All switched off fine.

    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    (3) are the associated HS devices updated correctly?
    As far as I know. Here's the entire Insteon config for one of the LampLincs:


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    Thanks for all your help on this one, thought it would be simple user error at my end...

    Andrew

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  • mnsandler
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    There is something going on with the kitchen lights specifically (of 2)...(of 5) when they are trying to be turned Off.

    (1) what triggers this?

    (2) do the switches get turned off correctly despite the error?

    (3) are the associated HS devices updated correctly?

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  • amr42
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    did you post the right report file? the last timestamp in the attached log is
    the timestamps above are later in the day
    and Voila! The Error Report now magically has the details from last night... Atatched
    Attached Files

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  • amr42
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    did you post the right report file? the last timestamp in the attached log is


    the timestamps above are later in the day


    Ah! My bad. I think when I updated the plugin I forgot to enable logging. What a duzy. OK, next 24 hour cycle! Sorry!

    I did wonder why there was not just a filename "Insteon Error Report". That should have told me right there...

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  • mnsandler
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    did you post the right report file? the last timestamp in the attached log is
    5/24/2020 1:28:05 AM
    the timestamps above are later in the day



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  • amr42
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    Would you please try the latest beta in the Updater. I think i may have fixed this issue already.
    OK, got same 4 errors last night:
    May-24 11:34:53 PM Insteon ** To request help with this problem please post this log file to the forum along with a detailed description of what lead to this problem.
    May-24 11:34:53 PM Insteon ** An error occurred in this plug-in. The details have been written to the log file - /usr/lib/HomeSeer/Config/Insteon Error Report.Log
    May-24 11:34:53 PM Insteon ***:Error in SendDirectMsg: Index was outside the bounds of the array. -- Details System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. at Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule.SendDirectMsg (Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule+TransmitMsgType Msg) [0x00215] in <3cba54d3fa7a43979665d1a70b63590a>:0
    May-24 11:34:51 PM Insteon ** To request help with this problem please post this log file to the forum along with a detailed description of what lead to this problem.
    May-24 11:34:51 PM Insteon ** An error occurred in this plug-in. The details have been written to the log file - /usr/lib/HomeSeer/Config/Insteon Error Report.Log
    May-24 11:34:51 PM Insteon ***:Error in SendDirectMsg: Index was outside the bounds of the array. -- Details System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. at Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule.SendDirectMsg (Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule+TransmitMsgType Msg) [0x00215] in <3cba54d3fa7a43979665d1a70b63590a>:0
    May-24 11:34:49 PM Insteon ** To request help with this problem please post this log file to the forum along with a detailed description of what lead to this problem.
    May-24 11:34:49 PM Insteon ** An error occurred in this plug-in. The details have been written to the log file - /usr/lib/HomeSeer/Config/Insteon Error Report.Log
    May-24 11:34:49 PM Insteon ***:Error in SendDirectMsg: Index was outside the bounds of the array. -- Details System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. at Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule.SendDirectMsg (Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule+TransmitMsgType Msg) [0x00215] in <3cba54d3fa7a43979665d1a70b63590a>:0
    May-24 11:34:45 PM Insteon ** To request help with this problem please post this log file to the forum along with a detailed description of what lead to this problem.
    May-24 11:34:45 PM Insteon ** An error occurred in this plug-in. The details have been written to the log file - /usr/lib/HomeSeer/Config/Insteon Error Report.Log
    May-24 11:34:45 PM Insteon ***:Error in SendDirectMsg: Index was outside the bounds of the array. -- Details System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. at Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule.SendDirectMsg (Insteon.Support.Core.InsteonModule+TransmitMsgType Msg) [0x00215] in <3cba54d3fa7a43979665d1a70b63590a>:0
    Insteon Error Log attached.
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  • amr42
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    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
    Would you please try the latest beta in the Updater. I think i may have fixed this issue already.
    OK, updated. Will monitor tonight. Thanks so much.
    A

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