Insteon triggers: what constitutes an On command?

[claude]

Hi Mark,

I have an event in HS3 (3.0.0.149) who's (Insteon) trigger is device "Transmits an On command"; if triggered I then set the same device to Dim 20% after a delay of 10 seconds.

The trigger and the event work fine, except that, on setting the device to a Dim value, the event is re-triggered.

My understanding of the Insteon trigger "Transmits an On command" was that it was the result of a physical press on the switch, not a device control from HS. I need you to confirm this before I dig further into this.

Here are the event and part of the HS log

[mnsandler]

Hi Mark,

I have an event in HS3 (3.0.0.149) who's (Insteon) trigger is device "Transmits an On command"; if triggered I then set the same device to Dim 20% after a delay of 10 seconds.

The trigger and the event work fine, except that, on setting the device to a Dim value, the event is re-triggered.

My understanding of the Insteon trigger "Transmits an On command" was that it was the result of a physical press on the switch, not a device control from HS. I need you to confirm this before I dig further into this.

Here are the event and part of the HS log

yes, typically the 'transmits an On cmd" is from an inbound msg. I can't check the code right to tell you why the dim action is triggering the event.

[mnsandler]

Claude,

I built a similar event and ran it manually and the dim 20% did not retrigger the event. I can test via the physical switch at this time.

any chance a direct msg is triggering the action again.

[claude]

Claude,

I built a similar event and ran it manually and the dim 20% did not retrigger the event. I can test via the physical switch at this time.

any chance a direct msg is triggering the action again.

Thanks for checking.

I'll do some more testing.

Happy Holidays !!

[claude]

Hi Mark,

I'm really puzzled on this one. Please see the attached files:
- Insteon error log, forced & truncated
- commented log with level = detail (events.docx.txt)
- snippet of the event (events.png)

You'll see that I start the test by physically turning on the light 2 [2:S. bain] Mural (2B.B4.DB). Then, with no further physical intervention, when the event dims the light after 10 seconds, the Insteon special trigger "Transmits an On command" gets re-triggered, repeatedly until I turn the light off at the switch.

I'm not sure if this is an Insteon or HS issue, related or not to the versions I'm using. There are a few anomalies, in my opinion, commented in bold red in the .docx: the question is what do I do to narrow this down?

[claude]

Mark,

Any thoughts/suggestions?

[mnsandler]

Mark,

Any thoughts/suggestions?

no, i haven't had time to process all this

[claude]

More testing on this.

If I change the trigger, using a "Transmits an On command" from another device, different from the one referenced in the actions, the actions work well (see attached snippit). Two tests were done: by physically turning on the light (Plafonnier) and by sending a Dim from CAPI (HS).

This seems to demonstrate that a Device Control from HS, such as a Dim 20%, does activate the "Transmits an On command" special Insteon trigger.

This is not a complex event. I need your help to determine if this is an Insteon issue or not. Please advise if I can do further testing or provide additional information.

[mnsandler]

things are working as designed. if you need On to mean 100% then use the hs standard device value trigger

[claude]

yes, typically the 'transmits an On cmd" is from an inbound msg. I can't check the code right to tell you why the dim action is triggering the event.

... And the plugin documentation says this about special Insteon triggers: Transmits an On Command - a single tap on.

I'm able to trigger that special Insteon trigger by setting the light On/Dim on the HS device status page: isn't that an outbound message?

I'll restate my question from my initial post:

My understanding of the Insteon trigger "Transmits an On command" was that it was the result of a physical press on the switch, not a device control from HS. I need you to confirm this before I dig further into this.

[mnsandler]

do you have the following in your insteon.ini

[Config]
ProcessACKs=TRUE

this would cause the trigger to fire

[claude]

do you have the following in your insteon.ini

[Config]
ProcessACKs=TRUE

this would cause the trigger to fire

Sure enough, I had set it to True for some testing way back ... and forgot to set it back to False. All fine now, thanks.

[mnsandler]

Good deal. thanks for the reporting back.